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The Pickup Place / Re: Pickup similar to AT-1
« Last post by LoveMyIbanez on February 03, 2023, 04:06:57 PM »
Yeah, I've heard a lot about the Breed neck used in bridge position on this forum and the Duncan one. Going by numbers alone, it would seem perfect. Man I wish Dimarzio would follow Seymour Duncan and BKP's route and offer recordings of all their pickups playing the same music clips. I really dislike bridge pickups for the most part: I've owned 7 pickups on 5 different guitars, and the AT-1 is the first one that I really enjoy playing on.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Pickup similar to AT-1
« Last post by gregr on February 03, 2023, 10:42:51 AM »
For what it’s worth the stuff I wrote about the AN was in response to Stephan’s initial post about it. My contributions were tangential; it didn’t ever seem like it would be a good fit for you.

For whatever reason I didn’t mention the Breed Neck before.

https://web.archive.org/web/20111229072557/http://www.dimarzio.com/pickups/humbuckers/breed-neck

“In the bridge position, it has a very warm, hot PAF® tone — really smooth, with nice harmonics.

Magnet: Alnico 5
Output mV: 325
DC Resistance: 10.39 Kohm
Year of Introduction: 1997

Treble: 6.5
Mid: 7.5
Bass: 7.5”

Back then the AT-1 was spec’ed at 5.5/8/8

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The Pickup Place / Re: Pickup similar to AT-1
« Last post by LoveMyIbanez on February 03, 2023, 07:32:48 AM »
That Nash video has such insane tone. I had a Bluesbucker in the neck matched with my AT-1 for a while: they actually pair up very very well, but that particular guitar has a strange midrange whine (I don't know how else to describe it) on the G and B strings that the BB emphasized.
I'd love it if there was a slightly less hot, less middy, brighter AT-1; but Ray might be right about the 36th bridge being the closest option, and likely a better match for the 36th neck I already have than an AN. I think I'll still try the Fortitude, and if it's a miss, exchange it for the regular 36th bridge.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Pickup similar to AT-1
« Last post by gregr on February 01, 2023, 08:01:53 PM »
Makes sense. I prefer 22nF, as I use the tone control to hang back. I find the small tone caps more useful with single coils.

This talk about the AN prompted me to dig out my guitar which also has the HFH in the neck. The guitar has a volume control for each pickup and a master tone control, ‘50s wired. Pots are 500k, 22nF tone cap. I added a 680k shunt resistor to the AN to even out the top end (~6kHz) between the two pickups. This allowed the tone control to work better between all three pickup combinations.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Pickup similar to AT-1
« Last post by darkbluemurder on February 01, 2023, 11:02:22 AM »
That is correct as we have AC signal but the load in that case is only reduced  above the cut-off frequency of the cap - below that the tone pot is isolated from the volume pot. With the large caps like 0.022uf and higher, this is noticeable as the cut-off freq is low. However, I am normally using a cap ten-fold smaller, i.e. 0.0022uf  so the effect is not drastic.

Cheers Stephan
 
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The Pickup Place / Re: PAF 36th (Bridge) + PAF Pro (Neck) on a LP
« Last post by RayBarbeeMusic on January 30, 2023, 04:29:16 PM »
Mo Joe is essentially a 9k PAF with two rows of screws, should work well in that application, but you'll still need to lower the PAF pro probably, and raise the pole pieces.  PAF Pro is fairly hot for a neck position.

Mo Joe is a pickup that doesn't get much attention, but it's very much in the DiMarzio PAF family.  36th bridge, Mo Joe, DiMeola Bridge can all be considered variations on a flavor, kind of all chocolate but the difference is how much coacoa is in your chocolate.  PAF Master is a little farther outside that group, but not much farther.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Pickup similar to AT-1
« Last post by gregr on January 30, 2023, 10:32:12 AM »
The only thing is that it may be a bit bright with 500k but I can lower the load until I like it.

Just roll the tone control back to increase the load (smaller impedance = larger load). Then you have lots of room on the control to turn it up and cut through.

I’ve found that raising the bobbin and lowering the screws makes a world of difference on the Air Norton as well.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Pickup similar to AT-1
« Last post by darkbluemurder on January 30, 2023, 05:29:54 AM »
If so and you’re into magnet swapping try an A2 in that Custom 5.

Actually,  one of  the C5s I have started its life as a Custom Custom until I replace the A2 with A5 :)

Cheers Stephan
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The Pickup Place / Re: Pickup similar to AT-1
« Last post by darkbluemurder on January 30, 2023, 05:28:10 AM »
If you've never tried air norton in the bridge, give it a go.  Really nice paf.

I actually did in several guitars. The only thing is that it may be a bit bright with 500k but I can lower the load until I like it. I 'll give it a shot.

Thanks,
Stephan
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The Pickup Place / Re: Pickup similar to AT-1
« Last post by gregr on January 29, 2023, 07:27:20 PM »
I heard the AN is quite bright in the bridge in some guitars. It might be a bit thin and bright for my tastes in a tele. I do love it in the Nash Aged Les Paul video on Youtube (paired with a Bluesbucker).
Thanks for this!

I never knew about combining a spin-o-split with a standard tone control. The Bluesbucker seems like a perfect candidate for that.

I’ve always thought the AN/BB would be a great pairing but opted for the HFH instead. I may need to revisit that.
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