It's time to revisit the pickups in my PRS

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It's time to revisit the pickups in my PRS
« on: Today at 12:07:50 AM »
Many years ago, thanks to you kind folks, I bought a Virtual PAF set for my PRS Custom 24. It solved the problem of obliterating the front end of my Mesa Subway Rocket so I could actually get a clean tone when I wanted one. It was a perfect match at the time. In the ensuing years, the rest of my gear has completely changed but the PRS continues to be #1. It's time to at least revisit the neck pickup if not both.

My basic setup is the PRS into a Red Llama or RAT, Catalinbread Echorec, and then into an Allen Encore, which is basically a tweaked out Fender Vibrolux Reverb. The guitar has a 3 way switch with two 500k push/pull pots for series/parallel on each pickup.

In parallel, the DP196 neck is clean and spanky and bright. A little too bright. In series it's undefined, particularly with distortion. The DP197F bridge sound is pretty good, if a little trebly as well. Rolling down the volume and/or tone either takes not enough edge off or too much.

If I had my druthers, I'd like a set that sounds like the Super 70s in my old Ibanez AR50. That guitar has an authority the PRS simply doesn't. Though I can dial both in to sound fantastic, if different. Understanding that's probably a pipe dream, I'd be very happy with a solution that just makes it sound like the best SG ever, which is how I think of it.

I don't have a lot of experience with pickups. My Ibanez RG had an Air Norton and AT-1 and I hated it. I sold the AT-1 and rewired it with the Air Norton in the bridge and got another VPAF for the neck. The Air Norton in that guitar sounds good in the bridge, though it doesn't compete on output with the Super 70s. The VPAF has the same issues as on the PRS.

I'm probably sticking to Dimarzio and Duncan, if that matters. Thanks for your help!

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Re: It's time to revisit the pickups in my PRS
« Reply #1 on: Today at 12:59:49 AM »
Roll back your tone control to the point where it is as low as you’d ever want it to go. Measure the resistance and then put the closest value resistor between the control and the wire feeding it. This will solve the problem of not being able to easily dial in the sweet spot. This assumes you don’t ever turn your tone control all the way down, of course.

There are other options short of modding or swapping the pickup, this just happens to be the one I primarily use. I also happen to like swapping magnets as well as passive bass shelves.
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Duncan 59, Jazz/APH & Full Shred sets. Custom 2/5/Ceramic, JB, Seymourizer II, Screamin’ Demon.
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Re: It's time to revisit the pickups in my PRS
« Reply #2 on: Today at 01:05:51 AM »
Roll back your tone control to the point where it is as low as you’d ever want it to go. Measure the resistance and then put the closest value resistor between the control and the wire feeding it. This will solve the problem of not being able to easily dial in the sweet spot. This assumes you don’t ever turn your tone control all the way down, of course.

There are other options short of modding or swapping the pickup, this just happens to be the one I primarily use. I also happen to like swapping magnets as well as passive bass shelves.

I'm all over the place with volume and tone knob settings. I'm usually somewhere between 3 and 10, but I've gone lower before.

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Re: It's time to revisit the pickups in my PRS
« Reply #3 on: Today at 01:15:02 AM »
I’ve never tried it but The Steve Morse Neck model might work quite well when wired in parallel, though it was designed to work with his bridge pickup which is quite hot.
Areas 58, 61, 67 & Hot T; VVB, 54P, HB2 & VSolo; InjN. FT 1&2, Satch Track
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Duncan 59, Jazz/APH & Full Shred sets. Custom 2/5/Ceramic, JB, Seymourizer II, Screamin’ Demon.
SSL-2 & 6T, Lil Demon, JBJrN, HotRailN

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Re: It's time to revisit the pickups in my PRS
« Reply #4 on: Today at 11:55:06 AM »
What about the SD High Voltage set? It's 4 wire so it'll do the series/parallel thing. And it was developed for an SG, which has the same pushed back neck pickup as 24 fret guitars do.

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Re: It's time to revisit the pickups in my PRS
« Reply #5 on: Today at 02:08:32 PM »
It’s still a vintage wind so parallel mode will still tend toward the brittle end of things. A loading resistor in parallel mode can help, as can a small capacitor which will lower the resonant frequency.

I am not a fan of parallel wiring. I did it for a few years but moved on to passive filtering.

On the vintage end of the spectrum… The neck pickup in my #1 is a Duncan 59 with an A3 magnet. My Tele has a DiMarzio EJ Custom Neck. I also like the Full Shred Neck, though it lacks a little body. I also like the Alnico II Pro. I’ve always wanted to try a Lace Sensor Purple/Emerald Dually and simply wire it to access either pickup rather than combine them. I hear good things about the Bluesbucker and am intrigued by Nash wiring on the tone control rather than series/split/parallel switching, but have never played one.
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Areas 58, 61, 67 & Hot T; VVB, 54P, HB2 & VSolo; InjN. FT 1&2, Satch Track
BNIB, PAF Pro, HFH, Air Norton, LiquiFire, EJ Neck. V Mini N&B. Corgan & Timmons sets.
Duncan 59, Jazz/APH & Full Shred sets. Custom 2/5/Ceramic, JB, Seymourizer II, Screamin’ Demon.
SSL-2 & 6T, Lil Demon, JBJrN, HotRailN

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Re: It's time to revisit the pickups in my PRS
« Reply #6 on: Today at 03:43:11 PM »
It’s still a vintage wind so parallel mode will still tend toward the brittle end of things. A loading resistor in parallel mode can help, as can a small capacitor which will lower the resonant frequency.

I am not a fan of parallel wiring. I did it for a few years but moved on to passive filtering.

On the vintage end of the spectrum… The neck pickup in my #1 is a Duncan 59 with an A3 magnet. My Tele has a DiMarzio EJ Custom Neck. I also like the Full Shred Neck, though it lacks a little body. I also like the Alnico II Pro. I’ve always wanted to try a Lace Sensor Purple/Emerald Dually and simply wire it to access either pickup rather than combine them. I hear good things about the Bluesbucker and am intrigued by Nash wiring on the tone control rather than series/split/parallel swotching, but have never played one.

I love parallel clean or dirty. It's the regular series sounds I want to change. I listened to some clips of the High Voltage and wasn't impressed. I might go with a Pearly Gates set instead.