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Review of the 10 fav pickups I've had and have on my guitars
« on: March 30, 2016, 10:49:25 AM »
Hello people. I haven't been on the DMZ or Duncan forums for a long while - I had and still have some health issues, but I still haven't stopped playing and tinkering with my sound - that I'll continue as long as my heart beats.

This is gonna be fairly long -- if you disagree with something said, by all means jump in and correct me -- this is all my opinion and just that, I'm simply writing this to put it here since I don't know when will I be able to do it the next time. Likewise, if you have reviews of your favorite ten, it would be cool to add it under a single thread. I'm gonna add only the pickups I used for longer periods of time and could compare them to other pickups, not the pickups I tried at friend's guitars, or at the shop, or 2-day wonders in my guitars. That imho wouldn't be fair. Also, I kept this to 10, because this could quickly turn into dozens of posts from me alone if I tried putting them all here.

It's gonna be simple, a pickup, a guitar I tested it in, followed by a short review of the sound, and a few other pickups which are, imho, similar in some way. All this said, is about crunch overdrive and higher gain territory. I play little of clean, and when I do I use Roland Jazz Chorus amp, which sounds clean and shimmering with pretty much any pickup or guitar, so I don't think it would be fair to compare them in that regard. All are humbuckers as well, of singlecoils, I find myself always going for True Velvet for lower gain stuff, and Super D-S or Hot Rails for higher gain stuff. All these pickups are bridge pickups, since that's the position I use some good 95% of the time.

So let's get going!


DiMarzio Super Distortion - too many a guitar to remember - it's fitting I start here, this pickup was my favorite for a very very long time, and I tested it in anytihng from agathis, basswood, bubinga all maple mahogany korina, et cetera. In all of these woods it performed admirably and very similar, hence I always said SuperD is very unpicky pickup as far as guitar goes. DiMarzio would have you believe it's a very dark pickup with very little treble, but it's not, in fact it's a very balanced pickup with lots of low mids, lots of strong stiff bass (that's still reasonably tight thanks to hex poles), just enough of high mids to sound musical (and throaty but never nasal or too middy) and a warm fat treble that always have a certain rude grindy quality to it (that screams 70s rock). Backing it away from the strings into the wood produces a sound much similar to modern PAF takes, something I believe not a lot of people tried out and know, and bumping it all the way to the strings makes it oneof the loudest pickups I ever tried. It's pretty dynamic in a sense if you pick lightly, it will sing politely, if you dig in, it will scream, it's very dynamic on the string attack as well since it's punchy and sensitive in that regard. It's a pretty compressed pickup, it's compression is most appearant in the low mids, the bass is always punchy fat and clear, and it's treble always sustaining without overcompressing (something that's quite different in a, say, JB). It by far sounds the best in all mahogany guitars, where it compliments the wood's tone perfectly itself, but can appear a little undefined under 300 or lower kohm pots. It sits right between the sound of Duncan Custom and Duncan Distortion, Tremonti Treble and 500T are another two pickups which are close but otherwise have too much high mids and are too bright.

Duncan JB - Gibson SG Std, Gibson Les Paul Studio, Fender Hwy1, Fender Fat Tele MIM Special, few basswood Ibanez guitars, LTD EC400, Tokai Love Rock -- this is me in my teen years, it contrast SuperD in pretty much every way. First of all, this is a very picky pickup, it literally sounds like thin nasal rubbish in one and fat awesome soulful tone machine in the other, it's a very hit or miss. In that lieu, I'll have to comment on certain woods and the tone qualities it has in those - JB have a very loose bass in pretty much anything except a certain slab of alder (where I still believe it's loose just largely inaudible), people online say it's a tight pickup - this only rings true on a very mild crunch, as soon as more gain is added, or the amp is turned close to or over it's distortion point, the JBs bass turn slobby, sloppy madness that floats from one note/chord to another and completely shadows any sort of resemblence to precision in bass and low mids. JB doesn't have too much of low mids, in fact, in this area I'd call it "scooped", this is the reason why on some setups, with certain amps and settings it will sound anorexic, specially after it's ran through a tubescreamer or another OD that cuts the bottom end, or bass is turned down on amp to minimise it's loose bottom end. This pickup is all about high mids - it has a spike in high mids, it's very audible on mostof setups, this gives it a nasty quality when played alone, though helps it cut nicely in a band mix. However, the spike to me is very unmusical and I don't really like it. Boosting the mids on most tone circuits leads the nasal spike being more appereant and in-your-face. JB has alot of highs, they aren't brittle but they aren't warm at all. Because of it's loose bottom end character, it needs the spike and lots of highs to cut through and be 'above' other instruments in the mix. This makes it sound tiring, and a little thin in the rhythm situation, and I'd never take it as a rhythm pickup. It, however, gives it added presence, sparkle, and the high mids spike give it a sort of a boost-without-OD for soloing, and the flabby bottom end actually helps at soloing to liquify the tone under gain and to make it adhesive better with the rest of the band. The dynamics on this pickup are good for it's output, and you can literally play anything from blues to metal with it, though you will probably find that pickups designed for a certain sound and music beats it in their relative area. Of many other pickups I tried, only Fender Atomic sounds similar to a JB. The AT-1 has some similarities but is otherwise darker, thicker and much more tonally balanced. The Evo 2 has some qualities but is otherwise a different pickup.

Gibson 498T - many Gibby guitars - there was a time when Gibson put these into pretty much any guitar they could shove them in. From cheapo Specials and Special Fadeds and Goths, all the way to creme-de-la-creme Customs. What's even more weird is they were doing it when people openly discussed them on forums and largerly hated them and were pullingthem out of their guitars like mad. In truth, I could never understand the hate - I'm sure it's somewhat related to the neck pickup this would usually ship with - the 490N. Total tonal inbalance in a set, bright cutting bridge, with a fat dark neck, sounds logical in someway, but when you count in mahogany's natural tendency to accentuate certain mids and bottom end, it turns the bridge sounded bright and cutting and neck completely muddy. If you'd EQ the amp for bridge to sound fat, the neck was muddy as hell, if you'd EQ it for the neck, the bridge was tinny and grating, unmusical. That's what would usually prompt me to change the neck pickup instead of the bridge (which I did, would usually opt for PAF Pro, or 36th anny, or a '59, depending on what guitar needed). Most of peeps would pull out the bridge the first, however. Thanks to this, though, you can usually find these for very cheap prices on craiglist, ebay, amazon etc. Now lemme start saying this is a picky pickup, not as much as JB, but it certainly sounds completely different in different woods. I tested it in all mahogany, mahogany+maple cap, basswood and alder. In all of these, imho, it sounds the best in all mahogany, and only where it sounds full and fat. Now people would tell you this pickup is all treble and doesn't have any bass. This is wrong, it has a medium amount of it, nothing special here, but just enough, it's reasonably tight and I've tested it all way down to DropA, and the bridge stays somewhat tight, this is definitely not your JB-esque bass, not a Duncan Custom tight either, right in between. This pickup has loads of low mids, the kicker here is the reason why most of its players will tell you otherwise is because its low mids are really compressed and in background. It's difficult to quite put into words, and I realise being in background sounds relaxed/scooped, but it isn't, it has loads of fat low mids, they're just so smeared and compressed that they stand behind it's treble and it's typical Gibson grain (this is even more obvious in basswood, where you can hear it's highs and grainy character but the mids are just compressed and somewhat lifeless). It's high mids are there, and are balanced, in many ways similar to SuperDs, they're not overpowering in any way, but they're musical and reasonably complex/harmonical. On some guitars, they can sound scooped, and they sound fatter with a 300kohm pot then with a 500kohm one. It has a typical PAF on steroids sound, it's mids are bumped a notch more then a true PAF and it's much louder, but the bluprint of the sound is similar. It's treble is bright and cutting, but in all mahogany guitars it's also warm, warmer then JB highs, in alder on the other hand, highs are very bright almost to the point of being harsh. This pickup, like 500T, BB Pro and few others, have unmistakable Gibson grainy character that's obvious at the frequencies between high mids and treble, and accentuated even more with the presence knob. It by far sounds the best on all mahogany guitars with a 300kohm pot, the loss of treble from a 300kohm load is corrected by it's grainy character, and the wood makes it sounds fat, almost gnarly but still smooth in the mids and treble and musical, never loose or harsh, this way it's one of my most favorite pickups. It isn't the most dynamic pickup on the earth, but you will find it works the best for what it was designed for, rock, hard rock and metal. People say it sounds like Duncan Custom5, but C5 is scooped and clear, not at all compressed. In fact, 498T sounds closer to Custom, since it has more mids and is more compressed, but none of these pickups sound too similar to the 498T, it's a beast on it's own.

Gibson 500T - Gibson Flying V Modern (New Century) - last year, I've got the Flying V New Century used for little money since it was so beat up. Before that, I only tried 500T couple of times in friend's guitars. I can't believe I didn't have a guitar with one of these before. I only tested them in mahogany Gibsons (I have it in one as well), but the sound is like a cross between a 498T, a Duncan Distortion and a SuperD. The bass is fat and super punchy, without ever going loose, the low mids are compressed in much the same way the 498T low mids are, you can hear it 'behind' the rest. The high mids is where this pickup excells, it has alot of these, it's a very middy pickup, though it doesn't sound nasal like a JB, it isn't spiky, it just sounds very middy and very natural at the same time. It has lots of treble, it's neither harsh or warm, it's very aggressive treble that sounds phenomenal on heavy riffage. It has that unmistakable Gibson grain in it as well which you can't dial out (pretty much like 498T), which I love because it adds character, though other people might hate because with certain setups can sound harsh. On the flipside, the pickup is really compressed, it's not X2N, but its more then SuperD. This can limit some of it's dynamism - it's not a very dynamic pickup, it's less dynamic then SuperD. However, I never thought of this pickup as a lead pickup, it's more for heavy riffage. Hard rock, all sorts of metal, industrial, this is where this bad boy finds it's homebase. This is my current favorite rhythm pickup of all I have. It sounds pretty similar to the PRS Tremonti, the Tremonti is tad darker with tiny bit more high mids (no doubt slightly overwound compared to Gibson), but both are pretty bright pickups so this isn't necessarily a bad thing. Of the others, Duncan Distortion is the most similar, but otherwise isn't on the same page.

Duncan Custom - Gibson SG Std, Gibson Les Paul Std, Washburn Idol - this is truely your typical PAF on steroids sounds, unlike the company's much more famous JB, this one isn't really picky about the guitar you put it in. I tested it on three guitars, one which is all mahogany, one with maple cap, and one which is a thin slab of agathis, which sounds nothing like the mahogany at all. It sounds really really good and almost the same on all three guitars, thus making it a very safe choice as a replacement, regardless of a guitar. I also heard it sounds great on floyd guitars as well since it has fat mids so doesn't loose alot of it's body on a floating trem. It has a fat strong, reasonably tight bass, this isn't a thin bass pickup, it's bass is situated lower then other pickups, it has a good ammount of low mids, they're not overbearing, they're just fat slightly open sounding,neutral high mids which are punchy with a sort of a waaah quality on the sustain (PAF Pro has similar high mids, but more of the waaaah) and a strong bold present treble to give it that specific character. 9/10 times I prefer a specific sound of a DiMarzio compared to a Duncan, but I really love this Duncan pickup, it's a very versatile, bold and rude sounding big fat PAF, it's hard to not like it. 498T somewhat sounds like it, but it's more compressed and grainy with less of a bottom end. PRS HFS sounds similar but it's darker, middier. Norton is the closest DiMarzio, but much bassier, clearer and nicer.

DiMarzio Evo 2 - several Ibanez RG guitars, Gibson Les Paul Special Faded - I always disliked the Evolution. To my ears it was always overbearingly middy, excellent for that 80s inspired lead sound absolutely, but really lacking in other departments. It was couple of years ago, I've got gifted a brand new Evo 2 pickup, and I put it on the shelf for two more months, rather trying the GFS pickups at the time then it, expecting to be just less powerful Evolution so thinking I'd dislike it much the same. I was definitely wrong about this one. This has to be one of the most underrated DiMarzio pickups on their whole line, with many players that originally played or play the Evolutions or the Breeds, don't even know Evo 2 exist. DiMarzio says it's a more refined, warmer Evolution, and this is very much true, but it's also much more musical sounding, less compressed, less in your face and fatter sounding as well, with the same amount of complex overtones. If you crossed the Evolution's great lead capacity with AT-1s rhythm, you'd get an Evo 2. The bottom end isn't either plinky or punchy, right in between, the low mids are fatter and more similar to a good overwound PAF then Evolution, the high mids have a slight bump, but it's not a big spike like Evolution, rather it's a slight boost you can hear the best on D and G strings, but otherwise aren't present on the high B (which was on Evolution, making it way too bright sounding). The highs are a little subdued compared to Evolution, but are brighter then an AT-1. It'd say they're just right. This all turns Evo 2 equally as good at lead as rhythm. It's a very dynamic pickup, in fact one of the most dynamic pickups I ever tried, low output or high, it will react much different to different attack speed, angle and techniques, and is rather easy making it sound smooth, nice, punchy, aggressive, bold all with your pick and fingers not even touching the pots. This is by far and wide my favorite lead pickup, once you pick it up, it's hard putting it down. I don't think there's many other pickups like it, the JB have some aspects of it there, but otherwise a complete different design, and I would't say original Evolution has that much in common in fact, I'd say Breed is more similar then Evo, you really have to play it to appreciate it, it's more of a feeling then of a sound (and the sound is excellent as well).

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Re: Review of the 10 fav pickups I've had and have on my guitars
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2016, 10:52:13 AM »
Continuing:

DiMarzio Drop Sonic (D-Sonic) - Gibson Les Paul Goth - now this pickup is something quite different, much alike Tone Zone, Steve's Special, Crunch Lab, Megadrive, it produces two different sounds in adjacent to how you installed it in your guitar - if you flip it 180, the different coil is closer to bridge and the sound it translates is different. I tested it really both ways. First how I installed it is the wire exiting towards the pots, this happens to be the way I'm installing all DMZ pickups for polarity issues (matters when Im using more then one, obviously), and this ended up with the bar being closer to the bridge and the polepieces looking away of it. This is a very modern sound, the bass is very deep and strong but at the same time plinky and quacky, no matter how fat strings you use and how much downtuned are you (or how much gain you use) you always get the string attack sound and that second of beginning of the note, likewise no matter the gain you can always hear all the notes in a large fat open chord. It's not all butterflies and rose, though, because of this very quality (I'm guessing at least), the pickup installed this way sounds very scooped, think Steve's Special, with a very narrow bump to certain high mid frequency so it cuts the mix, and it cuts really well, on it's own however, it ends up sounding thin and bright. The pickup installed this way has lots and lots of treble, but very little presence (except at that high mid peak), so this makes it both really really bright but also not harsh, it's a very unconventional sound. I found it excellent for thrash and technical this way, sadly I usually don't really play much of these genres, so I didn't like it this way. Closest to this sound, definitely Duncan Dimebucker and DiMarzio Steve's Special, with the first being closer. Flipped around, however, it produces completely different sound. It doesn't have as much bottom end, but the bass itself is much bolder, not nearly as twangy/plinky, it has loads and loads of fat dark low mids, in fact you will often find yourself going for a tube screamer to sort the low mid out and make it tighter, it misses that peak in high mids but in turn it has much broader (that's the only sound I can come up with) high mid frequency response. In turn, it has much more compact treble, situated on the lower treble spectrum, which ends up being quite warm. This way, it's a dark sounding pickup, and even though I liked its mids, I didn't gel with it's high end and bottom end this way, so in turn I didn't prefer either of it's sounds, for being too extreme. This way, Crunch Lab and Tone Zone are the closest, the Duncan closest is Invader actually although DSonic isn't as loud. Either way, it's a both dynamic and sterile pickup at the same time, it reacts promptly to how you play it, so it's very sensitive, but it's reaction isn't as nearly as complex as other DiMarzio pickups. The bar towards bridge is a better solution for heavy riffing, easy Pantera, Fear Factory etc sounds but way too thin and bright on the leads, flipped it's excellent lead pickup but too fat and dark for rhythm. No matter for the fact I didn't dig it's sounds, I found it works excellent when you need a wall of sound guitar that sits well in the mix but otherwise isn't in the front light, and I constantly find myselfgoing for this one when I do the background rhythm overdubs - in either direction, sometimes both, one left, flipped right.

Duncan Distortion - Ibanez SA, Gibson Explorer, Edwards FR120GT - word is this is an JB with a ceramic magnet, but this pickup is a better contemporary pickup then the JB. It has a strong bold bottom end, it isn't super big but it's relatively tight, it's tighter then SuperD, it has a healthy amount of low mids, not as much as SuperD but more then a JB, it has lots of high mids that aren't peaky as JB and a somewhat hard edged bright treble. It ends up being a very percussive aggressive riffing pickup, and I like it best for that. I wouldn't personally put it in a thin bright guitar, because it's treble might become overbearing, I believe it sounds the best in thick mahogany, like an Explorer, where the wood brings back the bottom end, and warms up the treble, the percussive nature of the pickup gives it a bold, fat, chunky attacky sound in fat mahogany. Gibson 500T sounds somewhat similar, also PRS Tremonti, but they're both more compressed, Gibson is dirtier (grainier) and the PRS is darker and middier. The SuperD, although it sounds like it would be the same pickup, actually isn't. It has much less treble, more bottom end and lower mids, and less high mids. It's a fairly compressed pickup in itself, not the most dynamic on the earth, but more then enough for what people usually use it for.

DiMarzio Tone Zone - Ibanez RG270, Gibson SG Special, Washburn Idol - I used to have this one in my SG right after I switched from JBs to DiMarzios for several months, before I eventually ended up on Super Distortions. It's real cool in standard tuning in mahogany for power chording, but sounds muffled in open chords, I definitely wouldn't use it for drop tunings. Funny aspect of it is how good it sounds in light basswood with a trem or thin agathis as well. In fact, I'd venture a guess it was designed for thin light guitars with floating trems in mind - it almost needs a lightweight guitar with a trem to thin it's enormous bottom end and low mids to a healthy level. Like I said, it has deep fat bottom end, fat compressed low mids, very open vocal ahhh high mids and warm fat highs. It's the only pickup I couldn't thin out on single note solos no matter if I turned bass completely down, and scooped the mids on the amp (something of course I don't really ever do). I expected this pickup to be more dynamic then it is, it's too dark and too bold imho to be really dynamic, and it's the Norton or Air Zone if you want similar EQ with more dynamics. Like mentioned, Air Zone and Norton (and Air Norton, of course) are the closest, with AT-1 having some similarities. Some people say JB, but imho the only thing it has in common is the resistance rating, which, imho, absolutely have no impact on how a pickup sounds. Of the pickups I tried that weren't inmy guitars, the closest was EVH's in MusicMan, which if I'm not mistaken is also DiMarzio made, and could very well be a similar wind.

EMG 85 - Epiphone Zakk Wylde - I originally had 81 on the bridge but disliking that one, I did what a friend suggested and swapped the neck to the bridge and vice versa. I read online all the time that EMGs are scooped. I couldn't disagree more. To my ears, they're all mids, the 81 is all high mids and treble, they have a narrow band low mids and super tight and precise bottom end. The 85 have a little darker bottom end then the 81, it's still tight pretty much the same, but it's not as crunchy as much as chunky so this creates an allusion it's fatter down, because of the magnet, it seems to loose a little bit of the nasty high mids, and gain some lower mids, and this also warms up it's treble. To me, this otherwise not so significant difference is like a night or day. 81 has no color on it's own, the 85 does, it sounds like a very tight overwound PAF, like a tighter, warmer and louder Duncan Custom, or like a tighter but darker and punchier bigger louder PAF Pro, and for this sound I actually dig it. I originally had an idea to swap the pickups in the new Les Paul I got near the end of last year, but ever since I swapped them, I can't find a true reason to swap it to something else. It's a really chunky tight riff machine, on the flipside it does all the lead part as well, it turns really compressed and liquifying-like when on higher gain settings, and I actually started digging that guitar for that sound. The 81 on the neck is terrible, though, so I'll probably try some other active pickup at some point, or even install a passive one and switch two pots from 25kohm to a regular 500kohm. On one hand it's not very dynamic, on another it is very much. I'll explain, you'd expect this to be a total metal machine, who would've play Jazz with an active pickup? But in all reality, I found for heavy blues and (gasp) some instances of Jazz where you need a consistenly loud and clear pickup that it works really fine, specifically whenit was still on the neck. It is otherwise, perfect for all subgenres of rock music and beyond. What it sounds like? EMG 85 and 81. Nothing quite sounds like it. If I could have both sides of the D-Sonic together, it would probably sound similar to 85, albeit not as loud and punchy. I'm not and probably never will be a fan of active pickups, but for some sounds, you definitely can't go wrong with an 85.


That's my favorite ten. In no particular order, of course, as my number one or two changes from month to month or from switching amps/cabs, but they on a constant basis gets played and enjoyed by me and I definitely don't see myself switching them out any time soon.

Thanks for reading!

Kind Regards,
Cory
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Re: Review of the 10 fav pickups I've had and have on my guitars
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2016, 12:07:41 PM »
Awesome write-up.

I can comment on the pickups on your list that I played myself:

1. DiMarzio Super Distortion
Had it in four different guitars (three of them Les Pauls, two with a maple top, the fourth guitar being a Jackson Archtop soloist type guitar). It was very loud in all of them, sounded good in one Les Paul but had a sizzle in the other guitars I disliked.

2. Duncan JB
I was never a fan of that pickup. I had four different ones since the 80s and used them in different guitars, and I agree that this is very picky about the guitar it's in. The first guitar I tried it in was a guitar in the shape of a Dean E-Lite (no longer have that one). Sounded OK but a bit thin. The second was in a Goldtop Les Paul. It sounded very muddy there - preferred the Duncan 59B that succeeded it by far. The third was in two different guitars where it sounded nasal in one and muddy in the other. I acquired the fourth through the bay cheap because the seller said it was defect. Turned out the only defect it had were widened holes in the legs. I put this one into a guitar which did not sound all that good but the JB made it come alive - just goes to show that it's all about a match between guitar and pickup.

3. Duncan custom
I only have limited experience with this since I only acquired one for the purpose of creating a 59/Custom hybrid. Basically I agree to your description, except I found it to have a slight dip in the center midrange on the Les Paul I tried it which made double stops on the D and G string sound small. I prefer the 59/Custom.

4. DiMarzio Tone Zone
Had it in a Goldtop Les Paul (hated it there, tone turned completely to fuzz) and in a very light guitar (much better there, added some nice punch to that guitar).

My top 10 DiMarzios at the moment would be in no particular order:

Area 67 (for the neck position)
Area 58 (for the middle position)
Chopper /Chopper T(for the bridge position)
DLX-90
DP 240 Minihumbucker (for the neck position)
Virtual Hot T
Area T neck
Virtual Solo (for the bridge position)
Bluesbucker (for the neck position of 24 fret guitars)
Virtual Hot PAF (tied with Injector neck)

Cheers Stephan
Area 67, Area 58, Area 61, VV Pro 54, Injectors, VV HB2, Virtual Solo, SDS-1, Area T, Area Hot T, Area T 615, Virtual Hot T, Chopper T, Bluesbucker, Breed set, Air Norton, Super Distortion, DLX+ set, DLX-90, DP240, DP198, DP168, VPAF b, AT-1, Mo' Joe, FRED, Super 2; GS b

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Re: Review of the 10 fav pickups I've had and have on my guitars
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2016, 12:59:49 PM »
Thank you for a response. I definitely find it funny how different the JB sounds in different guitars, I think this is a pretty negative aspect of the pickup, it seems to be the pickiest in mahogany, where in some guitars it sounds both harsh and muddy, it sounds really good when all the stars align, though.

I agree with your assesment of the Tone Zone, I disliked it in mahogany too, but lightweight guitars sound at home with it.


I see you're a fan of the lower wind and singlecoils, if you ever have a time and will to write a long review of them all, I'd love to read it. I definitely don't have as much experience with low output pickups and singlecoil-sized pickups as you do and as much as I'd want.


Kind Regards,
Cory
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Re: Review of the 10 fav pickups I've had and have on my guitars
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2016, 02:22:31 PM »
Cool post!

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Re: Review of the 10 fav pickups I've had and have on my guitars
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2016, 03:47:06 AM »
I see you're a fan of the lower wind and singlecoils, if you ever have a time and will to write a long review of them all, I'd love to read it. I definitely don't have as much experience with low output pickups and singlecoil-sized pickups as you do and as much as I'd want.

I am a fan of low to medium output humbuckers as my amps and pedals have a healthy dose of gain. I am a bit mixed on single coils. Been a Tele fan for a long time even though my early guitar influences played Les Pauls or Strats. But I never really bonded with Strats until I found that they occupy a spot in the country rock band I used to play in that no other guitar could do as well - playing rhythm behind the vocals.

Cheers Stephan
Area 67, Area 58, Area 61, VV Pro 54, Injectors, VV HB2, Virtual Solo, SDS-1, Area T, Area Hot T, Area T 615, Virtual Hot T, Chopper T, Bluesbucker, Breed set, Air Norton, Super Distortion, DLX+ set, DLX-90, DP240, DP198, DP168, VPAF b, AT-1, Mo' Joe, FRED, Super 2; GS b

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Re: Review of the 10 fav pickups I've had and have on my guitars
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2016, 11:40:58 AM »
I see you're a fan of the lower wind and singlecoils, if you ever have a time and will to write a long review of them all, I'd love to read it. I definitely don't have as much experience with low output pickups and singlecoil-sized pickups as you do and as much as I'd want.

I am a fan of low to medium output humbuckers as my amps and pedals have a healthy dose of gain. I am a bit mixed on single coils. Been a Tele fan for a long time even though my early guitar influences played Les Pauls or Strats. But I never really bonded with Strats until I found that they occupy a spot in the country rock band I used to play in that no other guitar could do as well - playing rhythm behind the vocals.

Cheers Stephan

To me it was always about how the pickup gels with my equipment in sense of its voicing, I never cared for output much, though there's something magical in high output pickup hitting the preamp hard of an already heavily driven poweramp that I so much like, I'll admit to that. Then it's the fact most of low output pickups seem to have a loose bottom end I dislike. That said I literaly only use boosts/OD to tighten up the sound, never as a gain boost, I'm pretty much plug'n'play as far as guitar into amps go, but I do understand what you're saying there.

Sadly I never really bonded with a strat, I just always had to have a humbucker on the bridge, though I do like the bridge+middle quack of a strat just the same (nothing else quite like it for mild crunch). I actually played a tele for a little while in a local pop band, and for what it was, it was great just not my taste so I eventually stepped down once they've got another guitar player.

I'm fascinated there's so many people playing so different pickups and all getting excellent sounds.

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Cory

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Re: Review of the 10 fav pickups I've had and have on my guitars
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2016, 02:13:04 PM »
Like Darkbluemurder, I can only really comment on those I've either owned or tried:

DiMarzio Super Distortion
Tried it in an Adrian Smith Jackson and liked it a lot but due to the EQ chart on the DiMarzio website, I assumed it worked because it was in alder, which balanced the dark pickup. As my guitars tend to be mahogany (PRS Custom 24 and Gibson Les Paul Studio) I always assumed the SD would be too dark for what I had so I never took the plunge.

JB
I agree with you here 100%. I first tried a JB when it came stock in a Jackson Soloist and I thought it was woefully poor so it was quickly changed. Instead of just leaving it lying around I put it into a Yamaha Pacifica on the grounds that even though it was pretty poor, it had to be better than the stock items. To my surprise they sounded really good. Years later I tried them in a Jackson Pro Dinky and I was completely blown away with how good they were.

Gibson 498T
Like you, I'm always amazed that so many people seem to hate this pickup because I love it. I love the way it retains a certain PAF feel, I love the way the upper mids give it just enough bite and aggression, I love the way it always makes me think of THE classic Gibson Rock tone and I love the way it perfectly suits my Les Paul Studio. It's the only stock pickup I've ever known that I have no intention of changing. Like you, however, I can't say the same about the 490R I have in the neck, which I don't find special at all. I'm toying with taking the 490R out and replacing it with a P90 instead, probably a Bare Knuckle Mississippi Queen. Failing that I might try a DiMarzio PAF Pro in the neck.

EMG 85
I just don't get on with active pickups at all. I find them too tight, too sterile and too artificial. To me, playing one of these instead of my usual alnico passive pickups is like playing a digital amp instead of my usual valves.

My own top 10 pickups in no particular order:

1) Gibson 498T - For reasons already explained.
2) Creamery 'Double Six' - Awesome pickup for anything from early Metal to modern Metal. Surprisingly versatile when needed.
3) Creamery Classic '83 - Want to sound like Jake E. Lee? This IS the 80s Metal tone captured to perfection.
4) Bare Knuckle 'Crawler' bridge - From Blues Rock to early Metal, this is the most awesome sounding and versatile pickup I've ever tried.
5) Bare Knuckle 'Emerald' neck - Just incredible!
6) Bare Knuckle 'Holydiver' neck - As above. These two are the best neck humbuckers I've ever tried.
7) DiMarzio PAF Pro - I had this in a Fender Ritchie Sambora Stratocaster and that guitar gave me the biggest range of sounds in one guitar I've ever come across. I really regret selling that one.
8) DiMarzio Virtual Solo - These last three are new to me but feature here because I don't usually like singles but these are great, especially when wired with a blend knob.
9) DiMarzio Area 61 - Much thicker than I expected and in the neck, gives a great Clapton tone. Really beautiful pickup.
10) DiMarzio Area 58 - I like this in the middle because it's noticeably brighter than either the Virtual Solo or Area 61 so gives a great contrast and twang.

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Re: Review of the 10 fav pickups I've had and have on my guitars
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2016, 07:54:36 PM »
Like Darkbluemurder, I can only really comment on those I've either owned or tried:

DiMarzio Super Distortion
Tried it in an Adrian Smith Jackson and liked it a lot but due to the EQ chart on the DiMarzio website, I assumed it worked because it was in alder, which balanced the dark pickup. As my guitars tend to be mahogany (PRS Custom 24 and Gibson Les Paul Studio) I always assumed the SD would be too dark for what I had so I never took the plunge.

JB
I agree with you here 100%. I first tried a JB when it came stock in a Jackson Soloist and I thought it was woefully poor so it was quickly changed. Instead of just leaving it lying around I put it into a Yamaha Pacifica on the grounds that even though it was pretty poor, it had to be better than the stock items. To my surprise they sounded really good. Years later I tried them in a Jackson Pro Dinky and I was completely blown away with how good they were.

Gibson 498T
Like you, I'm always amazed that so many people seem to hate this pickup because I love it. I love the way it retains a certain PAF feel, I love the way the upper mids give it just enough bite and aggression, I love the way it always makes me think of THE classic Gibson Rock tone and I love the way it perfectly suits my Les Paul Studio. It's the only stock pickup I've ever known that I have no intention of changing. Like you, however, I can't say the same about the 490R I have in the neck, which I don't find special at all. I'm toying with taking the 490R out and replacing it with a P90 instead, probably a Bare Knuckle Mississippi Queen. Failing that I might try a DiMarzio PAF Pro in the neck.

EMG 85
I just don't get on with active pickups at all. I find them too tight, too sterile and too artificial. To me, playing one of these instead of my usual alnico passive pickups is like playing a digital amp instead of my usual valves.

My own top 10 pickups in no particular order:

1) Gibson 498T - For reasons already explained.
2) Creamery 'Double Six' - Awesome pickup for anything from early Metal to modern Metal. Surprisingly versatile when needed.
3) Creamery Classic '83 - Want to sound like Jake E. Lee? This IS the 80s Metal tone captured to perfection.
4) Bare Knuckle 'Crawler' bridge - From Blues Rock to early Metal, this is the most awesome sounding and versatile pickup I've ever tried.
5) Bare Knuckle 'Emerald' neck - Just incredible!
6) Bare Knuckle 'Holydiver' neck - As above. These two are the best neck humbuckers I've ever tried.
7) DiMarzio PAF Pro - I had this in a Fender Ritchie Sambora Stratocaster and that guitar gave me the biggest range of sounds in one guitar I've ever come across. I really regret selling that one.
8) DiMarzio Virtual Solo - These last three are new to me but feature here because I don't usually like singles but these are great, especially when wired with a blend knob.
9) DiMarzio Area 61 - Much thicker than I expected and in the neck, gives a great Clapton tone. Really beautiful pickup.
10) DiMarzio Area 58 - I like this in the middle because it's noticeably brighter than either the Virtual Solo or Area 61 so gives a great contrast and twang.

Excellent post!

I love SuperDs in mahogany Lesters, though I never tried then in an PRS. PRS' are notorious for their nasal mids and darker tone, so you're probably right it would sound too dark, maybe even honky in an PRS.

The 498T is definitely an underrated pickup, and you're correct, it screams the Gibson Rock tone they're so famous for.

I can't say I ever tried anything from Creamery, to be honest, though I heard the Classic 83 sounds like a JB, just thicker, wouldn't know if it's true, since I haven't sadly played one. I'm yet to try out most of the BKPs as well, I tried the Nailbomb and it was so open sounding in the middle and so tight, took me two months to get used to it but figured it's not my sound. I've been wanting to try Rebel Yells and Holydiver for a while now though... getting serious G.A.S.S. now, lol.

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Re: Review of the 10 fav pickups I've had and have on my guitars
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2016, 03:05:51 PM »
what a cool thread  8)  lots of awesome insight

one thing...to my ears the JB only sounds good in MAPLE bodies, especially when mated with a rosewood fretboard.  this combination is magic, trust me  ;D  (played through a hot-rodded Marshall 2203 w/ EL34's completes the aural banana split)   \m/