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The Pickup Place / Re: Satch Track vs Bluesbucker (bridge position)
« on: March 03, 2023, 11:03:44 AM »
I think you could get a lot of mileage out of a D Sonic.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Pre B-1 or Area T Hot?
« on: February 28, 2023, 04:44:29 PM »
My thinking, based on the description is that it will add a little more grunt but still sound like a traditional telecaster.
I have no experience with DiMarzio Telecaster pickups and some but not much experience with Telecasters in general. So I should re-iterate that I’m going by the descriptions and the numbers that are supplied. If the 615 is akin to the Area 61 and the standard Area is akin to the Area 58, relatively speaking, you should get some more low mids which will make some difference in terms of sounding bigger. You’ll also get an increase in dynamic range allowing you to drive your amp a little harder when you dig in.
There is no question in my mind that the 615 will sound quite thin in comparison to the Area Hot T. This is why I mentioned the need for a good overdrive in order for the 615 to rock a little harder. Something like an MXR M77 that allows you some control over the low end.
I chimed in because I’m curious about the answers you get and would like to learn more.
I have no experience with DiMarzio Telecaster pickups and some but not much experience with Telecasters in general. So I should re-iterate that I’m going by the descriptions and the numbers that are supplied. If the 615 is akin to the Area 61 and the standard Area is akin to the Area 58, relatively speaking, you should get some more low mids which will make some difference in terms of sounding bigger. You’ll also get an increase in dynamic range allowing you to drive your amp a little harder when you dig in.
There is no question in my mind that the 615 will sound quite thin in comparison to the Area Hot T. This is why I mentioned the need for a good overdrive in order for the 615 to rock a little harder. Something like an MXR M77 that allows you some control over the low end.
I chimed in because I’m curious about the answers you get and would like to learn more.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Pre B-1 or Area T Hot?
« on: February 28, 2023, 02:33:53 PM »
Just going by the descriptions, have you considered the Area T 615? I think it might do a better job with The Rolling Stones than the Area T Hot since there is still is a fair amount of snap and twang. The rest you can probably coax out of your amps and possibly augment with a pedal or two.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Bluesbucker vs Fantom P90
« on: February 24, 2023, 10:23:04 AM »
If it’s south then the wire colors on each bobbin would have to be swapped internally relative to the wind direction in order for the pickup to be in phase with DiMarzio’s standard wire colors.
Either way they do it (polarity or phase) really doesn’t matter, I’m just curious.
Either way they do it (polarity or phase) really doesn’t matter, I’m just curious.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Bluesbucker vs Fantom P90
« on: February 23, 2023, 11:08:17 AM »
Interesting. I certainly would have wired it backwards. Thanks for that.
I take it the screw coil is also north in polarity?
I take it the screw coil is also north in polarity?
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The Pickup Place / Re: Bluesbucker vs Fantom P90
« on: February 22, 2023, 09:12:57 AM »
Which means the black/white pair need to be connected to the red wire, rather than the green wire which is typically connected to ground. I imagine this problem happens quite a bit since this is normally how people spit a humbucker. Hopefully the manual is clear about it,
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The Pickup Place / Re: Bluesbucker vs Fantom P90
« on: February 21, 2023, 07:45:16 PM »
I read some replies and the guy said that he split to the screw coil. Is this the correct one?
I’m curious so that I can add that to the comment section in the event that he got it wrong. However, I’m really just bumping this because I changed the topic title.
I’m curious so that I can add that to the comment section in the event that he got it wrong. However, I’m really just bumping this because I changed the topic title.
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The Pickup Place / Bluesbucker vs Fantom P90
« on: February 16, 2023, 09:00:09 PM »
I’m not a fan of split humbuckers but will tolerate them when one coil is shunted by a resistor or in some cases a pair of resistors and a capacitor.
Assuming I would use one wired in series most of the time, why wouldn’t I want to buy a Fantom P90 instead and use a treble-peaker in order to get more of a Strat-style single coil tone out of it?
I recently saw a video on YouTube where the guy noticed a significant loss in output when splitting the Bluesbucker:
https://youtu.be/IHf81ZovFlY
This doesn’t seem to be in line with what I’ve read about the pickup. Is he splitting to the wrong coil by mistake?
Assuming I would use one wired in series most of the time, why wouldn’t I want to buy a Fantom P90 instead and use a treble-peaker in order to get more of a Strat-style single coil tone out of it?
I recently saw a video on YouTube where the guy noticed a significant loss in output when splitting the Bluesbucker:
https://youtu.be/IHf81ZovFlY
This doesn’t seem to be in line with what I’ve read about the pickup. Is he splitting to the wrong coil by mistake?
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The Pickup Place / Re: Neck Pickup
« on: February 15, 2023, 07:57:53 PM »
Vintage output pickups are quite bright, especially the weaker neck pickups.
Remember, the neck position is much louder and more bassy than the bridge position. If you want a thick tone from the bridge position you will need to do something to manage the amount of low end coming from the neck position in order to keep it from sounding wooly or flubby. This is normally done by way of your choice of pickup, equalization or both and becomes more necessary as you increase the amount of gain.
Remember, the neck position is much louder and more bassy than the bridge position. If you want a thick tone from the bridge position you will need to do something to manage the amount of low end coming from the neck position in order to keep it from sounding wooly or flubby. This is normally done by way of your choice of pickup, equalization or both and becomes more necessary as you increase the amount of gain.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Neck Pickup
« on: February 15, 2023, 03:37:13 PM »
https://youtu.be/SQST2Sh7TrQ
Not the best demo, but you can hear what the Super D and the 36th Neck sound like together playing Maiden. This isn’t my video, I just happened to stumble over it.
Not the best demo, but you can hear what the Super D and the 36th Neck sound like together playing Maiden. This isn’t my video, I just happened to stumble over it.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Neck Pickup
« on: February 15, 2023, 01:08:31 PM »
An A4 has an acoustic quality to it. I don’t like them personally. It is often recommended on the Seymour Duncan forum to use in order to reduce bass in Les Pauls. I am unaware of anyone using them to play hard rock/heavy metal. They are more common in ‘70s blues rock.
My research indicates that the old DP103 is ~8k with an A5, magnet*. This is typical for a vintage output pickup. I wonder whether that was a coincidence for DiMarzio to reuse the model number.
As I said earlier, an overdrive like a Tube Screamer is often used to tighten and saturate. I’m fairly confident that Dave Murray used one with a Marshall, which I’m betting was a 2203.
(*)
https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/70s-dimarzio-paf.276162/
https://reverb.com/item/734571-vintage-dimarzio-paf-super-distortion-set-mid-70s-square-tab-humbucker-pickup-pre-dp103-dp100
https://offerup.co/9I1nTVkErxb
My research indicates that the old DP103 is ~8k with an A5, magnet*. This is typical for a vintage output pickup. I wonder whether that was a coincidence for DiMarzio to reuse the model number.
As I said earlier, an overdrive like a Tube Screamer is often used to tighten and saturate. I’m fairly confident that Dave Murray used one with a Marshall, which I’m betting was a 2203.
(*)
https://www.mylespaul.com/threads/70s-dimarzio-paf.276162/
https://reverb.com/item/734571-vintage-dimarzio-paf-super-distortion-set-mid-70s-square-tab-humbucker-pickup-pre-dp103-dp100
https://offerup.co/9I1nTVkErxb
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The Pickup Place / Re: Neck Pickup
« on: February 14, 2023, 06:07:02 PM »
I was suggesting the PAF Master Bridge. If you’re worried about a lack of articulation you might consider the Screamin’ Demon. It has A5 PAF qualities but with more growl and bite which will allow it to saturate more easily.
Neither the PAF Pro nor the PAF Joe sound like a classic PAF, at least not to my ears.
Neither the PAF Pro nor the PAF Joe sound like a classic PAF, at least not to my ears.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Neck Pickup
« on: February 13, 2023, 07:15:55 PM »
I was definitely not trying to recommend a stock Air Classic Neck, and I can’t corroborate my belief about recreating the original DP103 by un-airing an Air Classic. I’m sorry for not checking into this before posting.
I really don’t have too much to offer in the way of recommendations of a DiMarzio pickup that sounds like a PAF. Aside from the 36th, PAF 59 and PAF Master I don’t really think DiMarzio pickups sound like P.A.F. pickups. As much as I like the 36th, I consider it somewhat of a stretch. Virtual Vintage tech and non-nickel silver backplates are not part of the formula. An inconsistent number of turns on each bobbin resulting in an unbalance is part of the equation provided it is of the same gauge wire.
I like my PAF Pro in the neck position but I don’t think it sounds like a Duncan Seth Lover or a Gibson Burstbucker.
That out of the way I think DiMarzio makes excellent neck pickups. Unfortunately most of the ones I like are too powerful for the bridge pickups that I like.
Anyway, besides the PAF Pro I would check out the DiMarzio’s hottest vintage output pickups, which include bridge pickups such as the 36th and PAF Master. The latter, according to the specs, does not have an overwhelming amount of bass which is characteristic of a pickup with an A4 magnet.
I would also consider the Duncan Whole Lotta Humbucker or Saturday Night Special. The Screamin’ Demon also makes for an excellent neck pickup that I believe would pair nicely with a Super D.
https://youtu.be/xfbrlale9j8
I really don’t have too much to offer in the way of recommendations of a DiMarzio pickup that sounds like a PAF. Aside from the 36th, PAF 59 and PAF Master I don’t really think DiMarzio pickups sound like P.A.F. pickups. As much as I like the 36th, I consider it somewhat of a stretch. Virtual Vintage tech and non-nickel silver backplates are not part of the formula. An inconsistent number of turns on each bobbin resulting in an unbalance is part of the equation provided it is of the same gauge wire.
I like my PAF Pro in the neck position but I don’t think it sounds like a Duncan Seth Lover or a Gibson Burstbucker.
That out of the way I think DiMarzio makes excellent neck pickups. Unfortunately most of the ones I like are too powerful for the bridge pickups that I like.
Anyway, besides the PAF Pro I would check out the DiMarzio’s hottest vintage output pickups, which include bridge pickups such as the 36th and PAF Master. The latter, according to the specs, does not have an overwhelming amount of bass which is characteristic of a pickup with an A4 magnet.
I would also consider the Duncan Whole Lotta Humbucker or Saturday Night Special. The Screamin’ Demon also makes for an excellent neck pickup that I believe would pair nicely with a Super D.
https://youtu.be/xfbrlale9j8
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The Pickup Place / Re: Neck Pickup
« on: February 12, 2023, 12:21:38 PM »
Classic Dave Murray neck tone is a PAF, which I believe is an Air Classic without the air. EDIT: I tried searching for verification but couldn’t find anything about this.
The key to a saturated neck tone that is not muddy is an overdrive pedal. In Dave’s case it was a Tube Screamer, if I’m not mistaken.
EDIT:
I just dug this up:
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/forum/the-pickup-lounge/316782-de-aired-my-air-classic
He mentions a DiMarzio spacer, I think he might be talking about a keeper bar. This is likely how I got the impression that this would yield the original DP103. After re-reading it clearly doesn’t say that.
The key to a saturated neck tone that is not muddy is an overdrive pedal. In Dave’s case it was a Tube Screamer, if I’m not mistaken.
EDIT:
I just dug this up:
https://forum.seymourduncan.com/forum/the-pickup-lounge/316782-de-aired-my-air-classic
He mentions a DiMarzio spacer, I think he might be talking about a keeper bar. This is likely how I got the impression that this would yield the original DP103. After re-reading it clearly doesn’t say that.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Pickup similar to AT-1
« on: February 03, 2023, 10:42:51 AM »
For what it’s worth the stuff I wrote about the AN was in response to Stephan’s initial post about it. My contributions were tangential; it didn’t ever seem like it would be a good fit for you.
For whatever reason I didn’t mention the Breed Neck before.
https://web.archive.org/web/20111229072557/http://www.dimarzio.com/pickups/humbuckers/breed-neck
“In the bridge position, it has a very warm, hot PAF® tone — really smooth, with nice harmonics.
Magnet: Alnico 5
Output mV: 325
DC Resistance: 10.39 Kohm
Year of Introduction: 1997
Treble: 6.5
Mid: 7.5
Bass: 7.5”
Back then the AT-1 was spec’ed at 5.5/8/8
For whatever reason I didn’t mention the Breed Neck before.
https://web.archive.org/web/20111229072557/http://www.dimarzio.com/pickups/humbuckers/breed-neck
“In the bridge position, it has a very warm, hot PAF® tone — really smooth, with nice harmonics.
Magnet: Alnico 5
Output mV: 325
DC Resistance: 10.39 Kohm
Year of Introduction: 1997
Treble: 6.5
Mid: 7.5
Bass: 7.5”
Back then the AT-1 was spec’ed at 5.5/8/8