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buddroyce:
The LTD models are good value guitars. Weirdly enough it was something ESP USA created for the US market and weren't available in Japan until the last few years.

They're great guitars but the E-II is definitely a step up in my opinion.

corypheus:
Besides all said, if you want an ESP and want it true to the Gibson in terms of construction, materials, looks and, to a lesser degree, sound, and don't want to part with a large sum for a Navigator, check the Edwards LP line. They can be had for surprisingly cheap if you're getting used, but new is problem because you have to import them from overseas.

 Long tenon set neck construction, correct wood choices, premium hardware and Duncan pickups. I've got two and I like them just as much as many of my Lester Standards real deals.

They feel a bit different, and sound different thanks to different pickups, of course. Edwards are not weight relieved but feel incredibly light (or atleast two of mine do), and with the JB on the bridge the sound is ofcourse more contemporary as you'd expect from a higher output pickup. That was really my only issue with them, the JB which I simply switched for a different pickup.

A buddy has a Jimmy Page lookalike Edwards that he put whola lotta love and an a2pro in the neck, and that guitar just completely nails those LZ tones to a T.

bluesman:
The Edwards guitars are definitely better than any LTD I've tried. Too bad you can only get them on ebay or something. I would love to try their Jimmy Page LP.

The_Spell:

--- Quote from: harmonics on December 18, 2017, 07:14:43 AM ---hi
what's your opinion about ESP-LTD?
i said that because someone said ESP wanted to be close to Gibson

but it  would never happened lol
is it really true ?

was it about the ec 1000 ?

--- End quote ---

From what I remember ESP made a 1:1 conversion Les Paul. They made it better, in fact. Gibson took them to court, sued, won, and ESP had to start making their own stuff. Pre-Sue ESPs are rare to find.
It's worth a Google, at least.

As far as my opinion goes, I love them. Their guitars feel great, the budget models don't sound too great (my EC-256 sounds kind of flat in the clean department), but they do play great. I played on Ibanez gear for a decade, tried out the ESP stuff and fell in love.
I'm poor so I can't really comment on their expensive stuff but I can say I got a killer deal on an F-414FM and that normally went for about 600 USD. I got mine for 350 and it sounds amazing.

HarlowTheFish:

--- Quote from: The_Spell on June 20, 2019, 07:37:34 AM ---From what I remember ESP made a 1:1 conversion Les Paul. They made it better, in fact. Gibson took them to court, sued, won, and ESP had to start making their own stuff. Pre-Sue ESPs are rare to find.
It's worth a Google, at least.

As far as my opinion goes, I love them. Their guitars feel great, the budget models don't sound too great (my EC-256 sounds kind of flat in the clean department), but they do play great. I played on Ibanez gear for a decade, tried out the ESP stuff and fell in love.
I'm poor so I can't really comment on their expensive stuff but I can say I got a killer deal on an F-414FM and that normally went for about 600 USD. I got mine for 350 and it sounds amazing.

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Gibson actually sued for the EX/MX shape (copy of the Explorer) which is why you can only get the weird pointy one outside Japan nowadays. IIRC (as I heard from the ESP collector I bought my '03 Eclipse I - the 4-pot LP-contour one - from) they got a cease-and-desist from Gibson over the Eclipse and just stopped shipping the 4-pot Eclipse I to the US, which is why we only get the 3-pot Eclipse II. You can still find non-US 4-pot Eclipse IIs pretty easily though. Same as the old ones, they just don't retail over here.
Who knows though, Gibson might get prissy and decide we can't even have that if their latest ad's got it right.
My '03 Standard 4-pot is straight up the best-sounding, slickest-feeling Les Paul I or any of my friends have ever played so I get why the Big G would want to get rid of the competition.

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