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Thanks. Every time I play this guitar I love these pickups more and more. It's definitely better for hard rock tones than metal tones. Doesn't handle brutal metal tones very well, but the day I play Soil Work and In Flames with a strat is the day I need to be shot cause I have plenty of guitars better suited for that stuff.

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yeah I got a floyd but all my guitars have the large brass block and esp arming adjuster in them so there's no thinning issues there.

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It's been a while since I toyed around with the original Virtual Vintage Solo but from what I remember it seems like the Virtual Vintage Solo is closer to a regular P90 where as the Injector bridge is has more of a paf/p90 feel. I personally could never get any decent metal/shred tones with the Virtual Vintage Solo or the Virtual Vintage Solo pro that I can with the Injector.

If you're asking about the Injector compared to the Virtual Solo (DP420), I'd say the Injector sounds more "raw" compared to Solo which to my ears is a bit smoother and refined. Both would work well in similar settings but I think the deciding factor on which one to go with would come down to preference of rhythm tones in the bridge position. The solo is warmer while the injector has better crunch.

To be honest I wouldn't be surprised if the Injector was really a tweaked version of the original Virtual Vintage Solo.

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The folks at DiMarzio Inc. were nice enough to send me an evaluation set of the new DiMarzio Injector pickups along with an Area 67 a couple of weeks back and they've been sititng on my desk waiting to be installed in a guitar. Wish I had the time to do this earlier but it seems like everyone wants to bring in guitars for setups and upgrades RIGHT BEFORE Christmas and everything, anyways I finally got around to doing it (only because I came down with the flu and stopped taking clients).

NOTE: This review is long and boring, so if you want the summary go right down the end

THE TEST GUITAR:

The guitar the pickups went into is an ESP Vintage Plus strat with a floyd rose trem. The pickups that were on there before the injectors went in were the DiMarzio Cruiser, some stock ESP single coil that I never used, and a Duncan Hybrid that I was going to yank out sooner or later and replace with an AT-1. Needless to say the fact that the Injector Bridge pickup is actually a single coil meant that I wouldn't be using this pickguard. So I went and got myself a stock 11-hole Fender pickguard, but sadly, because this is an ESP strat with a Floyd, the pickguard needed to be *ahem* "modified" to fit. So after about 30 mins of reworking the pickguard with a dremel tool to route out the space for the floyd and the neck pocket (for some reason the neck pocket is actually spaced out like a Tele and not a strat... go figure..)

THE ELECTRONICS:

Anyways, since this was a fresh pickguard it gave me the liberty to screw around with the electronics and since your standard strat config is 1 Vol and 2 Tones it gave me a lot of things to play. However seeing that I never used the tone control and I was too lazy to figure out what I actually wanted I just went with a single 500k volume pot, a tone pot that wasn't conencted to anything and a master TBX tone control (only cause I had it lying around). Also went with a fancy Schaller E+ Megaswitch so I could get the middle position to run both neck and bridge pickups at the same time.

Although the pickups worked with both 250k and 500k pots, the only reason why I chose to go with the 500k pots was simply because I found the 500k pot first so it wasn't done for any tonal purpose although using it will yield a slightly brighter tone.

THE BRIDGE PICKUP:

Ok, first let me say that I have NEVER been a huge fan of single coil pickups in the bridge position. Every guitar I've ever had either had a humbucker in the bridge position or a single coil sized humbucker. Standard single coils just never really cut it for me, until I plugged in this guitar and turned up the volume on the Injector bridge.

The first thing I noticed different about the bridge pickup is how much fuller it sounded in comparison to most standard singles. Where as most singles have a lot of top end, the Injector has a lot of beef to it, which is fantastic for me since the thin bottom end was always my problem with single coils in the bridge position. Clean its got the nice sparkle and jangle you'd expect from a strat single coil but definitely fuller sounding. It's not over the top bright and handles clean jazz stuff fine. With a tad bit more dirt, the pickup starts to really shine. Cranking the gain up yield an awesome crunch tone that's perfect for any kind of blues/rock rhythm tones. Lead tones coming out the bridge pickups cut through easily but aren't over powering. It's got great harmonics and is very responsive to pick attack.

With the gain cranked up to metal levels, the pickup starts to sound a litle buzzy. The girth is there so palm mutes are still good but chords just sound way too buzzy. It's like plugging in a metal zone into a tiny amp. HOWEVER, turning down the tone control fixed the buzziness and the pickup becomes totally usable for metal applications. (thank GOD I had a TBX Tone Control installed!!!). With the top end rolled down a little bit, its starting to sound a bit more like a Crunch Lab with less bottom end and you could totally swear that this was actually a humbucker and not a single coil. Metal/shred lead tones are very articulate and cut through easy and you dont lose out on the harmonics. All and all I'd say that the injector bridge pickup is by far one of the most versatile single coils pickups around. It's not going to win awards for vintage tones but if you're looking for something that can handle a wide spectrum of stuff and always found humbuckers muddy, you should seriously try this out.

THE NECK PICKUP

Now to the neck pickup. Clean, the neck pickup does jazz stuff very nicely, almost like what you'd epect out of a P90 with a tad bit more sparkle, playing rock oriented clean passages, the pickup had a lot of the clarity and glass that you'd expect from a single coil in the neck position. Although I personally preferred the DiMarzio Cruiser that was in there before as it had a more fluid tone.

Cranking the gain on the neck pickup produces a nice fat rhythm tone for blues rock stuff. The bottom end is nice and tight with a fair amount fullness. Think of it as a strat pickup with bigger tighter bottom end or a humbucker with tighter bottom end and more top end sparkle. Blues Rock lead tones are nice right across the fretboard. It handles so well that you could literally get away with just using the neck pickup for an entire song. With the gain reaching metal levels, the pickup starts to sound pretty crappy as a rhythm pickup, but then again, why in the world would you be using a neck pickup for metal rhythms to being with?? For metal/shred style lead stuff and all the Paul Gilbert-esque neo-classical shred stuff, the pickup works REALLY REALLY well. Clean and articulate are two words that come to my mind when it came down to it. The extra brightness DiMarzio added to the neck pickup really helps it cut and when I had someone else shred on my guitar (cause my shred skills aren't exactly up to par anymore), the notes come out very clear and well definited. If you're into the metal shred thing and want something different than the Air Norton or YJM, you should seriously give this a try. To be honest, I actually like the Injector neck a whole lot more than the YJM/HS-4's I used to have in this guitar before I put the cruiser in.

COMBINED WITH THE AREA 67 AND TOGETHER

When either pickup was combined with the Area 67 in the middle position, the tone was very much what you'd expect from any strat in the # 2 and 4 inbetween positions. Nothing truly out of the world note worthy, just exactly the spank you'd expect (it was better than the cruiser and that stock single middle pickup that was in this guitar before). Great clean or with light amounts of distortion. I'd never use the in between positions for high gain applications personally.

With both pickups on, the clean tones sound very nice with an almost acoustic glass like quality. A very note worth combination IMO.

OVERALL OPINION/SUMMARY

Overall, I'm VERY pleased with how these pickups are, and coming from a guy that's predominantly humbucker driven that's saying a lot. I find that the bridge pickup outshines the neck pickup but thats probably because I spend more of my time on the bridge pickup. If you're looking for a set of pickups that are very versatile to handle everything from Jazz, Blues/Rock to Metal (without going super over the top) these pickups are really something to consider. The Injector bridge has given me new faith in my strat to bring as my only guitar out to a gig in how well it handles everything. My only beef with the pickuips is that the bridge pickup can be a bit buzzy when the gain is cranked (and you can hear it off the Fuzz Universe album), but with the tone control rolled down it's totally awesome. The pickups aren't very 'vintage' sounding, so if thats what you're looking for, you're best off elsewhere but if you're out for a modern rock tone or a metal shred tone I'd highly recommend these and I'm sure I'll be recommending them a lot more around here.

 :madness:

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The Pickup Place / Re: Bluesbucker vs. SD Phat Cat
« on: December 31, 2010, 12:47:47 PM »
I just installed a Bluesbucker in a brand new Caparison Angelus and it sounded fantastic. It's not 100% P90, but it's very close. It's kinda like a slightly PAF sounding P90 that cuts through the mix very well. It was paired up with a Bare Knuckle Aftermath which is a high gain monster of a pickup and really helped give the guitar a lot of versatility. The client there wanted a guitar to handle raging distortion for really heavy stuff but also be able to deliver fluid lead tones and smooth clean tones for jazzy stuff.

The Duncan Phat Cat, P-Rails and Bare Knuckle Manhattan/Mississippi Queen were all considered but once the high gain distortion was added to the requirements, the Blues Bucker won out as it was hum free and still delivered the versatility.


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The Pickup Place / Re: DiMarzioForum Pickups FAQ
« on: December 03, 2010, 10:10:49 AM »
I was going to make the Metallica reference but I didn't want to offend anyone by saying it's not 'heavy metal' ;)

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The Pickup Place / Re: DiMarzioForum Pickups FAQ
« on: December 02, 2010, 01:27:19 AM »
I believe the difference between metal and heavy metal is that 'heavy' refers to the more brutal sounding tones where the bottom end tends to be tight with very aggresive sounding mids. While 'metal' would likely refer to a slightly warmer type of 'metal' tone with big bottom end.

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The Pickup Place / Re: I just lowered the height of my Tone Zone....
« on: March 26, 2010, 10:24:16 AM »
Really glad to hear that you managed to find the sweet spot for your tone zone. Once you find it, it's MAGIC.

As for the neck pickup, the Air Norton Split (slug side active) produces a very nice single coil tone. The Paf Pro, Air Classic, and PAF 36th are also good options.

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Everything you wanted to know about .... / Re: PAF Joe
« on: October 18, 2009, 06:49:52 PM »
The PAF Joe in comparison to the PAF Pro is a much sweeter sounding pickup than the smoother sounding Paf Pro. It's got more of a Rock n' Roll vibe and still maintains a lot of clarity even under disgusting amounts of gain. It's also a very chimey sounding pickup that's got some of the qualities strat and tele players seem to love. Other than the Humbucker from Hell, the Paf Joe would probably be the next brightest pickup closer to a single coil vibe.

Bascially, if you like the Humbucker from Hell and the Paf Pro and want something in between the two, give the Paf Joe a try.

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Everything you wanted to know about .... / Re: Uploading Soundclips
« on: October 14, 2009, 05:12:22 PM »
It's all good. I thought I stickied it but I guess I didn't.  Thanks for making it a Sticky Nick,

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Everything you wanted to know about .... / Uploading Soundclips
« on: October 13, 2009, 10:05:10 AM »
This section is fantastic but I've been asked by a few of you here about uploading sound clips, so I've allowed mp3 file attachments with a maximum file size of 512kb. That's more than enough for sound clips. But if you can upload clips between 96-128kpbs, joint-stereo and variable bitrate, that would help keep the file sizes down (if you can't do VBR, 96kbps-128kbps CBR is fine too).

If you want to upload something larger, I would HIGHLY suggest using the built in Windows Movie Maker or the built in movie maker on Max OSX and turn your sound clips into a video that can be tossed up on youtube. Otherwise there are many other places that can host and share mp3s. I just wish I had more disk space and bandwidth on the server (the ad revenue barely covers the server).

Anyways, I hope to check out the sound clips demoing some of the pickups in this forum!

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The mini bar (off topic & misc) / Re: your first guitar idol?
« on: September 21, 2009, 11:44:14 AM »
Budd - i bet you can't stomach 'Stairway to Heaven' or 'Sweet Child o mine'  still to this day! :)

Believe it or not, that would have been the case early on, but throughout the years I've actually had fewer people play Stairway to Heaven or Sweet Child o' mine. What gets me is the kids playing the same Nirvana tunes over and over and over... and over... and over... and... well you get the point. Stairway would have been a welcome change.

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The mini bar (off topic & misc) / Re: your first guitar idol?
« on: September 19, 2009, 07:02:13 PM »
Ahh yes.. the guitar idols. My first idol wasn't Hendrix or Page, but rather it was actually Yngwie Malmsteen, he was actually the person to get me to start playing guitar. Believe it or not, I actually started working in a guitar shop before I even knew a thing about guitars or even had any interest in them. Back before downloading movies was even feasible popular over a decade ago we used to have a VHS demo tape of a whole bunch of guitar instructional videos and I would just watch them while I was working on guitars (yes I was working on guitars before I knew how to properly hold one). One of the videos we demo'd was actually Yngwie's Young Guitar videos and after seeing him demo his tunes and break down his technique a couple million times, it started to grow on me and I just had to get a guitar to play. From then on it went to your typical shred guys as well as guys like Mattias Eklundh, Michael Romeo and  Bumblefoot (before his GnR days....waaaaay before..).

Oddly enough I never had a keen interest in the more mainstream idols like Hendrix, Page, Frusciante or Slash, but that's probably because when you work in a guitar store BEFORE you start digging the music, you start to hate all the stuff all the teenagers that come to the store liked and ended up gravitating towards the heavier stuff some of the older guys were into.

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Everything you wanted to know about .... / Re: Humbucker From Hell
« on: September 09, 2009, 03:11:13 PM »
Maybe I should have said that it sounds like a paf in single coil mode instead to through you off ;)

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Everything you wanted to know about .... / Re: Humbucker From Hell
« on: September 07, 2009, 10:31:32 AM »
How does the HFH sounded in split?

I actually just installed an HFH in a clients Les Paul with the Dial-A-Split control instead of a tone and to be totally honest, running the HFH in single coil mode sounds pretty much the same as it does in humbucker mode, except it's got a little less output and it's got the 60 hz hum.

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