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The Pickup Place / Re: Pick up wiring issues!

« on: February 02, 2022, 06:33:08 PM »

Thanks again Stephen!

I'll try these when I have more time and will keep this thread up to date when I get round to doing it!

cheers,

Adam!

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The Pickup Place / Re: Pick up wiring issues!

« on: January 29, 2022, 03:51:59 PM »

So after some more tinkering, and rewiring back to the original wiring ( R to hot, B+W to split, and Green and Bare to ground) It is definitely out of phase. I tried wiring black to hot, R+G together for split, white and bare to ground, but I got nothing at all pos 1 or 2, got something on 3 but that was essentially just the neck pick up outside coil.

I basically went back to the second wiring I done, W to hot, R+G together and black and bare to ground. And it sounds full on pos 1 again, but still out of phase sounding on pos 2. I had considered swapping the hot and ground of the middle pick up, but I feel that will cause that pick up to be out of phase with the neck.

So who knows, my thoughts are maybe that the lead wires have been hooked up inside the pick up wrong, or the pick up is faulty, even though all the readings check out. So I'm confused as to why the original R to hot, etc, wiring is out of phase.

Adam

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The Pickup Place / Re: Pick up wiring issues!

« on: January 27, 2022, 05:10:38 PM »

Hello again!

So the middle pick up in pos 2 and 4 was out of phase with the bridge and neck. pos 2 and 4 spiked down, whilst 1,3 and 5 spiked up.

The sound of the bridge and neck are similar in volume to be sure! The middle and neck does sound stratty, as it should. But, the bridge and middle sounds out of phase to me? Like its noisy and thinner than I expect it to be. So I guess that's out of phase? I have the bridge currently wired inside out ( W to hot, R+G together for split, B + B to ground.) But for the correct wiring, R to hot, B+W for split, and G+B to ground, the bridge sounded just out of phase. And It was out of phase in the test I done. It was spiking down, where as the Neck was still spiking up.

As for the noise, I do in fact have more noise in 2 and 3, than 4. For the magnetic polarity I have an old pick up and it attracts the outer coil and repels the inner. middle pick up attracts. For the neck, the inner coil repels and the outer attracts!

Does this help some? Also i really do appreciate all the advice and help you're giving me right now, Stephen!

Adam

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The Pickup Place / Re: Pick up wiring issues!

« on: January 25, 2022, 09:33:37 AM »

Thanks for the welcome!

I attached the diagram that I followed. I should have probably attached it to begin with, sorry about that!

I have a multimeter, yeah. In the current wiring, with the green + red split, black + bare to ground and white as hot, I get 13.8k in the bridge position, almost 4k in pos 2, pos 3 is 2.7k, pos 4 is 2.8 and the neck is 9.72k!

I did the phase test with the screw driver in the current wiring and the past wiring and found the bridge pick up was out of phase, it spiked down where as the neck spiked up. so I rewired it as it currently is.

As for hum/ noise, A little bit of noise in pos 1 and 5, more noise in pos 2 and pos 3, with the least noise in pos 4. And the 5-way-switch is a super switch. Oak Grisby deal.

In the wiring that is dictated by the diagram, as I originally had it. the neck position was full HB, and position 4 was spliting fine. But I would get no sound at all from position 3, which is the outer coils of the HB's together, and position 2 and 1 were thin and weak sounding, thats when I discovered the way I rewired it, wit the red and green as split, etc.

Does this help? Should I do anything else, is it still worth me going back to the original wiring and testing the DC, like you suggest?

Many thanks for your help Stephen,

Adam!

Oh, I should also mention, to try and fix my original problem, I tried swapping the red with the green, so the green was hot and red grounded with the bare. That didn't help. I was still getting the same thin sound, hence this alternative wiring.

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The Pickup Place / Pick up wiring issues!

« on: January 24, 2022, 04:22:39 PM »

Hi folks, I'm new here, and I've been having some problem with my pick ups lately. I built a new guitar for myself recently and I've always been a Dimazrio fan, so I got some for this new guitar of mine.

Its a H-S-H deal, Gravity Storm in the bridge, Red velvet in the middle, and a FRED in the neck, damn tasty...or so I want it to be!

So the wiring I went with is the Guthrie Govan's wiring:

Pos 1: B Hb
Pos 2: B + M
Pos 3: outercoils of both Hb's
Pos 4: M + N
Pos 5: N Hb

There is also a DPDT switch that dumps some of the Hb's through a R/C to ground which sounds more like single coils than a fill Hb's split/tap.

Now as per the diagram I followed, GG's pickups use the same wiring code as Dimarzio pickups. Green + Bare to ground, White + Black together, for the split and Red to hot.

Following that diagram, I just recently discovered that the bridge was out of phase with the middle. So I wired up the bridge to be, as per someone on the web's advice, Black + Bare to ground, Red + Green for the split and White for the hot. But now, I feel like position 2 and 4 are out of phase. And I also think the bridge pick up sounds...different to how I expected. In my last guitar I had that same pick up a Gravity Storm in the bridge and suspended in a pick guard in an alder body guitar. So perhaps that's where the difference in sound is, but my other worry was that maybe, in wiring it this alternative way, I've wired the pickup in parallel, as opposed to series? Again I'm unsure here.
My new guitar is again, an alder body, but this time with a maple cap, no pick guard, as they are directly mounted to the body.

It might be worth while mentioning that my last guitar had 2 Gravity Storms, one in the neck and bridge, with a fast track in the middle, all Hb's!

So my question(s) are, what do I do to not get a phasing issue in position 2 and 4, do I need to live with that? Is it possible for me to solder the Black of the Red velvet to hot, and the white to ground? Or will that lead to it being out of phase with the neck pickup? Also I assumed since all are Dimarzio pick ups, they were gonna play nice together... perhaps rookie mistake.



Sorry for the long post, but I've been wracking my brains trying to sort this one. And there were many a' time when I wanted to launch the damn guitar oot the window.

Thanks for reading, any suggestions/criticisms, I'm ready to learn!