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The Pickup Place / Re: Dimarzio AT-1 for EVH

« on: July 11, 2011, 06:39:29 PM »

I  completely forgot who i was arguing with! OMFG!
http://youtu.be/Oi3mtRIzJcY
my favorite part is when he says "makes a les paul sound more like a les paul'   

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The Pickup Place / Re: Dimarzio AT-1 for EVH

« on: July 11, 2011, 06:26:30 PM »

Frank I was talking about that you wouldnt know about the JB and EVH thing because you didnt work for Dimarzio in 89-90.

as per paul unkert(built the kramer 5150's after the proto was made by ed at the factory) and several kramer employee's all said the kramer 5150's were sent with JB's and 59's to EVH.
there is nothing to despute about this, these guys were there

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The Pickup Place / Re: Dimarzio AT-1 for EVH

« on: July 11, 2011, 06:22:34 PM »

You know what really pisses me off is that OILPIT has no real world experience with gear. He probably never even heard a UOA5 JB yet he disses it calling it BS and ed never used one? how the hell do you know that ed never used one?
I will believe the guy's that worked at kramer when ed was playing their guitars over what you say.
When you have been playing for 25 years and have did 100's of gigs then maybe you will have some knowledge and credit

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The Pickup Place / Re: Dimarzio AT-1 for EVH

« on: July 11, 2011, 06:08:53 PM »

The Duncan JB has been exactly the same from day one.  Unoriented, roughcast magnets have never been used in any Duncan pickup in their history.  Only recently have forum members started to swap them into pickups.

Ed never played a JB, they never used UOA5s, you and Ed Hunter just live in a little EVH fantasy world where whatever you want to be true automatically becomes gospel truth, and anyone that disagrees is "a joke"

Call up Duncan, ask them if you don't believe me...

hey doubting thomas WHAT MAGNET does this JB have?
http://www.themusiczoo.com/product/8268/Seymour-Duncan-35th-Anniversary-JB-Bridge-Humbucker-Pickup-Black/
Next tme watch who you are accusing of slinging BS!
YOU KNOW NOTHING!

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The Pickup Place / Re: Dimarzio AT-1 for EVH

« on: July 11, 2011, 03:15:00 PM »

It's the internet gentlemen, try to remain civilized.

The AT-1 is a pretty darn good pickup. I mean, Andy Timmons lent his name to it, what more could you want? For the longest time, it was a custom order only pickup, and those who were able to get their hands on it would always tout its fantastic tone. Needless to say, they were right.

COBL, i agree and what is great is that if you mod it by removing the Virtual Vntage and air design it has the same  tone as the Axis bridge pu.
I did this to my AT-1 before i sold one of my dimarzio axis pu's to be sure

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The Pickup Place / Re: Dimarzio AT-1 for EVH

« on: July 11, 2011, 02:58:23 PM »

When VH went to EBMM to have his sig guitar built he wanted to have seymour do the pu's  but EBMM had dealings/agreement with dimarzio. so they went with dimarzio for the mass producer of the pu's.
The duncans that were shelved are called "black backs" .these are the prototypes seymour made for the EBMM EVH sig guitar. and you can still buy these for $130 each from duncans custom shop or ed roman
Anyway according to blucher many  bridge p'u prototypes were made for EVH and he narrowed it down to 2 models ,one went on to become the tone zone and the other wound up known as the ebmm EVH bridge pu.(also called the axis bridge pu). and are in that guitar to this day.
this pickups starting point was the duncan JB in VH's kramer 5150 guitar.
This JB was not your typical off the shelf duncan JB model you can buy, it is the old school  JB that uses a rough cast UOA5 magnet in place of the polished A5.(if you know anything about magnets and the effect on tone you will know that the two sound very different) So they used this pu as the template for the bridge pu in the EVH or axis.
this is why the spec's of the dmarzio EVH or axis bridge pu is so similar to a JB(16.5K alnico 5 wound with awg 44 and matched coils) essentially it is dimarzio version of a JB as is  newly released the AT-1.
Get a JB and slap a roughcast UOA5 magnet it it and hear the JB in a new light!  very VH sounding!

here is blucher talking about tone zone and EVH

IHG: With regard to when you said pickups don't exist in a vacuum, I imagine you seek feedback from various players from different genres when designing a new pickup? For example, Paul Gilbert was featured in an ad for the Tone Zone - did he have any feedback into its development?

Blucher: We sometimes seek opinions from players in different genres, but not when a pickup is being designed for a specific player or style of music. Paul Gilbert didn't provide any input towards the development of the Tone Zone. The only player who did was Eddie Van Halen, in the course of doing the pickups for the MusicMan EVH guitar. My understanding is that the final choice for the bridge pickup was between the TZ and the pickup he actually chose, and it almost literally came down to a coin toss.

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The Pickup Place / Re: Dimarzio AT-1 for EVH

« on: July 09, 2011, 07:36:27 PM »

Both use awg 44 poly wire wound to approx. 8.5K per coil, have a alnico 5 magnet and are machine wound.
The AT-1 has the airbucker patent /design and VV Patent/design while the axis does not use either. so dimarzio is not pulling any tricks or stunts since both in stock form ARE NOT the same pu. the rest is up you , from my own experience when i made the AT-1 no longer have air  gaps(i used parts from a old tone zone, and removed the two screws under the bobbin to get rid of the VV design, they sound the same! and yes I own 3 axis sets i have bought from ebay and elsewhere to compare.    Many dont realize it but the axis is very close to a JB. so the AT-1 fits the bill.
FWIW the air norton is more than close enough to the neck axis,but if you want it even closer de-air the slug coil or just use the liquifire with is a warmer /hotter air norton with hex poles

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The Pickup Place / Re: PETITION TO DIMARZIO: PLEASE BRING BACK THE VIRTUAL PAF SET!

« on: March 20, 2011, 12:12:34 PM »

this thread gets my vote!  dimarzio should AT LEAST offer  the VPAF anf VHPAF as "special order" like they do the double whammy,megadrive,etc