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The Pickup Place / Re: Talk me out of the PAF Master neck
« on: February 22, 2019, 01:57:19 am »
Hi Dave!
Satriani used to use two PAF Pro pickups in his guitars. Searching for more mids/output out of the PAF Pro in the bridge, then came the FRED.  It was Joe's combination until the invention of the PAF Joe (instead of PAF Pro), and the Mo' Joe (for the bridge). It will work just fine. The PAF Pro ain't a high output beast as presented in the specs.

Everything you wanted to know about .... / PAF Pro (in the NECK position)
« on: February 17, 2019, 10:01:52 am »
Something like Dimarzio's take on the Seymour Duncan 59'.
Very balanced, even, with power, can take pedals with ease, and can play a lot of things.
It can be jazzy at times, nice for blues a la Gary Moore, etc. This ain't only for virtuosos!
Believe me, it's good! Even my tech will buy one now (after installing it on my guitar).

If anyone has questions about it (in the neck position), please write!

The Pickup Place / Re: Talk me out of the PAF Master neck
« on: February 17, 2019, 12:49:13 am »
Something about this thread tells me you should have gone with a PAF Pro.
I installed it, played it, and even my guitar tech will buy one.
It's THAT GOOD!  With your Fred in the bridge, a PAF Pro in the neck will provide you with Satriani's past pickups combination. It will work!

Everything you wanted to know about .... / Re: PAF MASTER SET REVIEW
« on: February 05, 2019, 12:44:18 pm »
To be fair, I think most of people that dis on DiMarzio and their vintage line, don't like the aggresiveness/punch that DMZ pickups have, it's a common quality that all posess. It's the way how they react to pick attack, as opposed to for example Duncan which reacts more like a vintage pickup. And it is largerly a matter of taste. No good or bad, no worse or better, just different.

I tried PAF Master and just couldn't gel with them. They definitely felt more "PAF" then 36th anniversary, more old school, but that aggressive feeling to them made them feel like they were trying to be something else. FWIW, I do like 36th anniversary a lot, and recently started rolling it into most of my guitar's necks, as I generally find it more versatile and musical then what was there before - a Paf Pro. I have a les paul that previous had A2P which went and gave room to 36th anny set now, and I could swear it can still nail those GnR tones, to a T. But I digress.

There's a lot of different "PAF" sounds, and alot of qualities that people tie to that name, it's good to see there's more then one model catering to specific tastes. I hope DiMarzio will continue to add models in their vintage lineup (which is imho currently weakest/least developed).

So yes, thankful for the reviews and happy to see people dig them, they are great (if different) offerings in PAF pickup arena in the sea of custom shop replicas (a whole ordeal that is kinda getting silly already).

I really would love to see Dimarzio expanding on the PAF game. There's the PAF59 now that's definitely the best vintage PAF model that Dimarzio offers at the moment (YEAR 2019). The PAF36th was a huge success. I don't see many reviews raving about the PAF Master set. Ironically, I found a deal, and ordered a F-Spaced Bridge Pickup DP261 PAF Master a few days ago. I may be missing the raw rocking sound of the 498t in the bridge, but I want to start venturing in a new tone quest. What I did like about the neck pickup is that it's not a pushover, it can take gain nicely. I just wonder how it will fill out on the bass department or if it will always be lacking there...

The Pickup Place / Re: Which neck pickup should I go for now?
« on: January 30, 2019, 10:55:21 pm »
Sacrificing the quality of the clean tones with the Paf Pro Neck? No man, the Paf Pro has great clean tones. One of my favorite neck pickups for clean.

That's good to know!
It was a PAF36 vs PAF Pro match-up.
Most people were recommending me the PAF Pro. I'll update when I get it installed next month. I play many genres, but do need the neck for clean rhythms, arpeggios, and some overdriven leads.

The Pickup Place / Re: Talk me out of the PAF Master neck
« on: January 25, 2019, 05:20:20 pm »
I have a PAF Master (neck) pickup installed on my V.
What would you like to know?

Well the review you posted in the PAF Master .. Everything you ever... forum was a huge help to me.  Thank you for spending the time to really put it to words! I thought you really gave a lot of details, and I liked what I read. Your V and my Ibby superstrat  are not the same beast, but I did see a couple of videos of the pickup on superstrats that swayed me. The Paul Gilbert video? Meh.  The only thing that would make me decide against it is if you told me it sucked at getting harmonics. ( as much as you can get them on a neck). 
Am I accurate in saying the Master Neck is less polite than a HFH, PAF Joe, 36th, Air Classic? 

Thanks !!

Oh, they are short leg mounts, right?

Hi! I'm glad my review was of help to you. I haven't had the chance of trying those pickups myself, but I can contact my former tech that has experience playing those pickups. Once I read your reply, I connected my V into my Fender & Marshall amp. The PAF Master is definitely a classic/vintage sounding pickup with edge. I had the same problems you had with the Air Norton, with a Transition neck pickup. The PAF Master definitely removed the muddy, boomy, horrible clean, and too smooth sounds of the Transition. I can adjust my technique to have a smoother tone with the PAF Master, but they're still quite aggressive. For being a neck pickup, it can easily keep up with the tone of my Super Distortion in the bridge.  About the harmonics, it all depends on the amount of gain you have in your amp, and your guitar volume knob.  I'm not sure it will track fast/rapid notes as well as you may like. I remember everything sounded amazing while shredding with the Transition neck. Felt like a ''guitar god'' at times. The PAF Master won't do that. If you're a fast player, you may need to head in another direction. The pickup also lacks some bass, that will be noticeable in your longer scale guitar.
The PAF Master (neck) has short leg mounts. :)

I will be replacing mine for a PAF Pro in this guitar, so it can keep up better with the Super Distortion output. The PAF Master may be going into my Gibson SG.

The Pickup Place / Re: Talk me out of the PAF Master neck
« on: January 25, 2019, 03:45:30 pm »
I have a PAF Master (neck) pickup installed on my V.
What would you like to know?

The Pickup Place / Re: DiMarzio DP427 bridge pickup
« on: January 24, 2019, 11:04:02 pm »
Thank you for the info!!!
I really want to see/hear a demo of this pickup. I see Phil got a Pro Track on his guitar + the Sustainer. Which could be a nice SSS set combination for this? I imagine it's going to be a Super D/3 like distortion beast!   PS. I'm a fan of the Super Distortion, and Collen's tone/playing!

The Pickup Place / Re: 2019 new models
« on: January 24, 2019, 10:51:34 pm »
all the ones I could notice were new or appeared to be new for 2019 
pricing is "list"


Dreamcatcher Bridge
f-space only

IGNO Bridge
f-space only

Rainmaker Neck
standard space only


Sugar Chakra


Notorious Neck

Notorious Middle


Notorious Bridge


Dreamcatcher 7 bridge

Rainmaker 7 neck

edit to add:

Fantom P90

Fantom P90 w/ full size hum cover

Vintage P90

Vintage P90 w/ full size hum cover

YES!!! THE SUGAR CHAKRA = Dimarzio DP427 is Phil Collen's Signature Pickup!!!
I want more info!!!! :D
Thanks Darth!

The Pickup Place / Re: Which neck pickup should I go for now?
« on: January 21, 2019, 03:35:03 pm »
I have a Breed neck in a very bright guitar together with the Super Distortion. Keeps up easily in volume with the SD and has more output than a PAF-style pickup.

Cheers Stephan
PAF Pro isnít all that boomy.

Super 2 can get a little hairy.

I highly considered the PAF Pro evolution variants like the FRED, PAF Joe, the Breed and others, but decided to place the order for the PAF Pro itself.

I really hope I nail the tone I'm looking for now. I'm a little worried really. Don't know what to expect. My mind says the PAF36th DP103 could do the trick, but I may benefit from extra output in the neck position. I did like the PAF Master in the neck, but truly needed more ''beef'' (bass), and power (output). The PAF Master seems like a pickup that's great to play with a single tube amp channel, and distort, and do everything with pedals n' stuff! I'm a man that prefers to use the clean channel for cleans and the gain channel for distortion, controlling volume, and intensity with my volume knobs. Let's see how it goes now! Really don't know what to expect. I already know I'm sacrificing the quality of the clean tones.

The Pickup Place / Re: Which neck pickup should I go for now?
« on: January 19, 2019, 07:21:06 pm »
I would suggest the Humbucker from Hell, but you said you want more output. I would suggest the PAF Joe, but I don't think it meshes well with the Super D. I would suggest a PAF Pro, but you said you do not want boomy bass, and the PAF Pro can have boomy and slightly muddy bass. You say you want more output and smoothness. The obvious choice to ME would be a Super 2 in the neck.

Thank you for the suggestions! It has definitely been a long neck pickup journey. About the PAF Pro, how boomy it is? I know 6.5 (like the Transition) is overkill, and the 4.5 bass of the PAF Master is too low for this guitar. 5.5 is the # in between. The PAF Pro is 5, the PAF36 (5.5), but those are just numbers. The real test comes from testing the pickup itself.

How will the Super 2 cleans be? I imagine a rocking machine.

Everything you wanted to know about .... / Re: FRED
« on: January 19, 2019, 12:33:30 am »
I love my Fred in the bridge of my basswood RG550 / edge locking trem/maple neck.  It is bright, but not thin to my ears. It's just waiting for you to pinch off a harmonic.  Kind of like a kid that had too much sugar.

Since it was /is not uncommon to see a guitar with PAF Pro's in both the neck and bridge, I wonder how a Fred in both spots would work.

I do wonder how the FRED fares against a PAF Pro in the neck position.

The Pickup Place / Which neck pickup should I go for now?
« on: January 19, 2019, 12:02:01 am »
Hi there!
As some may know, I actually have a Gibson Flying V with a Dimarzio Super Distortion + PAF Master (neck) combination. It's the second bridge pickup I install on this guitar, and I'm going now for the 4th neck pickup installed on this guitar.

It's a long story, but this has been the situation. Guitar was bought with faulty active electronics, transformed into passive, had a APH-2 (Slash Alnico II Pro) Set installed, removed due to low output and unbalanced tone due to having one tone knob. Began a new phase with a Dimarzio Super Distortion and a Transition neck pickup. Had a love/hate relationship with both pickups, liking (and disliking) different things about them, but after some time I decided that the Super Distortion was going to stay, and the Transition had to go. Why?

Transition Neck
Took high gain like a champ. Not a pushover!
Amazing Slash creamy tones while overdriven. Very nice output level

I hated the clean/ceramic/lifeless tones.
Too modern hi-fi sounding compared to the hot vintage/classic high gain tone of the Super Distortion.
Too damn boomy, and dark sounding compared to the Super Distortion
Too smooth, without much ''attack''.

Then after the curiosity attacked, I decided I wanted to get the hell out (away) from ceramic neck pickups, back into Alnico V magnet pickups. Those are the ones that mostly ''work for me''. After almost deciding for the PAF36, I pulled the trigger on the PAF Master (Neck) Pickup Model.

This one has a very clear tone I like, very responsive to volume controls, and can keep up with the clarity of the Super Distortion very well (with only one tone knob). But while it's a very nice pickup, I do plan to remove it from this guitar, and store it for another project. The reason? There are some things that I do need that this pickup (or any other) haven't fulfilled yet in the neck position.

I do need more output (to overdrive/distort faster), more ''smoothness'' (the PAF Master can be on ''Full On Attack Mode''), and more bass without turning muddy, dark, and going into BOOM city. I use a Blackstar HT-40, an amp that has a ''tone knob'', but no bass, treble or mids control for the clean channel. That's why I need something to fill that void correctly.

I'm gettings lots and lots of recommendations but Dimarzio, Darth Phineas, and my former guitar tech recommended the PAF Pro for the neck position of my guitar.  My mind says PAF36th (DP103), and has the PAF Pro as second choice.   I do know about the PAF59's from Dimarzio, but I do plan to test them in the future, just not on this Super Distortion equipped guitar.

Which should be the next pickup I should go for?
I'll await your replies!

The Pickup Place / Re: Duncan Custom 5 but with more mids?
« on: January 11, 2019, 11:47:23 pm »
Put a ceramic magnet and turn it into the Duncan Custom SH-5. If not, ditch it and go with a SUPER DISTORTION.
And yes! Both of them are my favorite bridge pickups with 59' being my fav choice for the neck.

The Trading Post / SOLD!
« on: January 07, 2019, 07:03:16 pm »

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