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Title: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: 27fretshred on September 28, 2007, 10:11:21 pm
They just posted this on youtube.. Looks like Larry's been busy making videos lately. His newest one is of a 59 Les Paul. Check it out

[youtube=425,350]N7IlR53ca9M[/youtube]
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: custom24 on September 28, 2007, 10:40:46 pm
My god.. is that guitar ever sweeeeet.....

btw.. anyone else notice the grovers on that '59 Les Paul? I thought the 59 LPs were supposed to have the old skool keystone Kluson tuners?
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: ou812 on September 29, 2007, 11:33:40 am
That's a super sweet guitar!! man am I ever jealous of Larry Dimarzio!!
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on September 29, 2007, 12:54:59 pm
My god.. is that guitar ever sweeeeet.....

btw.. anyone else notice the grovers on that '59 Les Paul? I thought the 59 LPs were supposed to have the old skool keystone Kluson tuners?
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Hi, this is Larry DiMarizo. Glad you like the '59 Les Paul. You are absolutely right about the tuners. When I purchased the guitar, it already had the Grovers on it. However, I liked them so much better than the original Kluson pegs that I kept them.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: tomago on September 29, 2007, 08:44:08 pm
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!
I can't believe Larry DiMarzio is actually here on the forum!!
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: koki on September 29, 2007, 08:51:24 pm
Hello Mr. DiMarzio!! It is a great honor to have you here with us. I really love your guitar collection. I also find this video on youtube. It is not yet on DiMarzio myspace page but I really like this guitar:

[youtube=425,350]3j1vxO971wU[/youtube]
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: 27fretshred on September 29, 2007, 09:03:11 pm
Hi, this is Larry DiMarizo. Glad you like the '59 Les Paul. You are absolutely right about the tuners. When I purchased the guitar, it already had the Grovers on it. However, I liked them so much better than the original Kluson pegs that I kept them.

It's soo great to see you here sir. I really love that Les Paul of yours. Your video really showed me how nice the original '59 Les Pauls are. Would it be possible to get a close up pic of the area underneath the pickguard? The guitar looks great now, but I can't believe how great the original unfaded color is underneath the pickguard!
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: krak_down69 on September 29, 2007, 09:28:35 pm
This is a joke right?? April fools is still some months away ya know. ;)
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: purple_voodoo on September 29, 2007, 09:42:37 pm
Hi, this is Larry DiMarizo. Glad you like the '59 Les Paul. You are absolutely right about the tuners. When I purchased the guitar, it already had the Grovers on it. However, I liked them so much better than the original Kluson pegs that I kept them.

Hi Mr. DiMarzio. Welcome to the forum. It's great to see you here. Just wondering if you're worried about the vintage value of your guitar and if you would ever want to restore it back to it's original state with the original tuners?
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: buddroyce on September 29, 2007, 09:55:17 pm
This is a joke right?? April fools is still some months away ya know. ;)

I can assure you that this isn't a joke. That really is Larry DiMarzio.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: custom24 on September 29, 2007, 10:29:24 pm
My god.. is that guitar ever sweeeeet.....

btw.. anyone else notice the grovers on that '59 Les Paul? I thought the 59 LPs were supposed to have the old skool keystone Kluson tuners?
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Hi, this is Larry DiMarizo. Glad you like the '59 Les Paul. You are absolutely right about the tuners. When I purchased the guitar, it already had the Grovers on it. However, I liked them so much better than the original Kluson pegs that I kept them.

Wow! I didn't think I'd get an answer from the man in the video!! I kinda guessed that the tuners were changed when you bought them. I didn't think you'd be the type of person to intentionally swap out the parts. Are those pickups original? Or are they DiMarzios ;) Just curious because I don't understnad why Gibson would put a double cream and a zebra pickup on a guitar.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: Mail2JackButler on September 30, 2007, 08:10:17 am
VERY cool indeed! ;D
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on September 30, 2007, 02:10:26 pm
Hi Mr. DiMarzio. Welcome to the forum. It's great to see you here. Just wondering if you're worried about the vintage value of your guitar and if you would ever want to restore it back to it's original state with the original tuners?

At this point, restoring the tuners would do more harm than good. The Grovers necessitated making the holes larger. Additionally, they keep the guitar in tune better than the original Klusons. There's a slight change in sound because of the Grovers' extra mass that I feel is an improvement. (This would not be the case with Fender guitars where I find that the lighter original pegs sound better.)

As for the vintage value, that was never a consideration for me. I've tried to collect the best sounding & playing guitars over the most original condition.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on September 30, 2007, 02:39:33 pm
Are those pickups original? Or are they DiMarzios ;) Just curious because I don't understnad why Gibson would put a double cream and a zebra pickup on a guitar.

Yes, the pickups are original. Interesting story: as I've been told — around 1959 — Gibson ran out of black plastic moulding material and for a short period of time used cream colored plastic for the pickup bobbins; (the same color as the mounting rings). Since the pickups came with metal covers, they figured no one would ever know what was underneath.

When I designed the Super Distortion®, I decided to make it double cream to pay homage to those old Gibson pickups, but I changed the pole pieces and used circular bobbin holes instead of square ones so that no one could use DiMarzio parts to counterfeit orginal parts. Gibson made about a thousand double cream colored pickups, and I've probably made a half million.


Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: tomago on September 30, 2007, 06:39:17 pm
That's some great info!! I take it someone has previously tried to counterfeit the original parts using DiMarzio parts before?
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: asian_sensation on September 30, 2007, 06:50:05 pm
Hi Larry!! It's soo awesome to have you here!! Just noticed that you have five springs installed in your '60 Strat. Are you using some heavy gauge strings or is there some tone improvement using the extra springs?
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: tomago on October 01, 2007, 01:01:32 pm
Ya know.. I just noticed the 5 springs on that strat too.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: winger on October 01, 2007, 05:41:59 pm
Awesome guitar. I've been dreaming of only seeing one up close in real life someday (don't even mention getting to play one). 8)
This dream will never come out though.  :'(Too few Les Paul's from that era around. Their value's too high formost owners to take them out of their vaults. :(

BTW. Welcome to the forums mr.D! Hope to see you around here often. ;)
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: custom24 on October 01, 2007, 08:56:02 pm
Yes, the pickups are original. Interesting story: as I've been told — around 1959 — Gibson ran out of black plastic moulding material and for a short period of time used cream colored plastic for the pickup bobbins; (the same color as the mounting rings). Since the pickups came with metal covers, they figured no one would ever know what was underneath.

When I designed the Super Distortion®, I decided to make it double cream to pay homage to those old Gibson pickups, but I changed the pole pieces and used circular bobbin holes instead of square ones so that no one could use DiMarzio parts to counterfeit orginal parts. Gibson made about a thousand double cream colored pickups, and I've probably made a half million.

That's definitely an interesting story. Thank you so much for sharing videos of your guitars. I always wanted to know what a real 59 Les Paul looked like. I never knew the tops were soo nice.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: iba777 on October 04, 2007, 12:01:57 pm
Ya know.. I just noticed the 5 springs on that strat too.

My guitar tech once told me that using extra springs will improve the tone by allowing more transfer of vibrations to the guitar body. No idea how true that is. I couldn't really use more than 3 springs on my guitars because they all have floyds on it. Maybe Mr. Dimarzio can answer that question.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on October 04, 2007, 02:56:23 pm
That's some great info!! I take it someone has previously tried to counterfeit the original parts using DiMarzio parts before?

It was a precaution. When I invented replacement pickups in the early 70s,  there was already an underground interest in cream colored pickups. I wanted to prevent anyone from using my products fraudulently.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on October 04, 2007, 03:03:33 pm
Hi Larry!! It's soo awesome to have you here!! Just noticed that you have five springs installed in your '60 Strat. Are you using some heavy gauge strings or is there some tone improvement using the extra springs?

Hey asian_sensation,
I usually use either 10s or 9s on Strats, and rarely use the tremolo. I've found that using all 5 springs and keeping it tight keeps the guitar in tune better. As for sound — I like the tone of Stratocasters with tremoloes better than those without.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on October 04, 2007, 03:14:21 pm
My guitar tech once told me that using extra springs will improve the tone by allowing more transfer of vibrations to the guitar body. No idea how true that is. I couldn't really use more than 3 springs on my guitars because they all have floyds on it. Maybe Mr. Dimarzio can answer that question.

Hi Iba777,
Anything that you do to the string/bridge relationship will alter the sound — either for good or bad. My suggestion is to experiment (which is what I do all the time) and keep a record of what you like and don't like. In other words, there's no hard set rule. For example if they could be put on the same guitar, the original Floyd bridges would sound different from Gotoh bridges and would also sound different from the original Strat bridges.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: krak_down69 on October 04, 2007, 03:17:00 pm
Hi Larry, just wondering which Dimarzio pickup in your opinion would create the sound closest to the pickups in your 59 les paul and 59 strat?
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: buddroyce on October 04, 2007, 03:23:23 pm
My guitar tech once told me that using extra springs will improve the tone by allowing more transfer of vibrations to the guitar body. No idea how true that is. I couldn't really use more than 3 springs on my guitars because they all have floyds on it. Maybe Mr. Dimarzio can answer that question.

ESP's Custom Lab(I believe it's their R&D dept.) actually looked into the whole thing about using additional springs for a thicker(?) tone and developed some special alloy springs that allow you to use 5 springs on a floyd but have the same feel as 2 or 3 springs. They're called "Tremolo Tone Springs" if you feel like googling it up.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: 27fretshred on October 05, 2007, 10:08:40 am
Hi Larry, just wondering which Dimarzio pickup in your opinion would create the sound closest to the pickups in your 59 les paul and 59 strat?

+1 I'd like to know too..
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: asian_sensation on October 05, 2007, 10:23:21 am
Thanks for the replies Larry! Do the newer Fender and Gibson reissues come close to the originals?? A lot of people keep saying that the reissue models are no where near as good as the originals but I'm thinking that Fender and Gibson would have the capability to recreate it fully if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: shredmonkey on October 11, 2007, 10:01:50 am
Hi Mr. DImarzio,

Welcome to the forum. I'm wondering which modern equivalents do the original PAF's in your 59 Les Paul sound like? Any info would be great as I plan on buying a Les Paul but really would like to get it as vintage sounding as possible.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on October 20, 2007, 02:17:29 pm
Hi Larry, just wondering which Dimarzio pickup in your opinion would create the sound closest to the pickups in your 59 les paul and 59 strat?

Hi krak_down69,
Since there are a number of factors that will affect the sound of the pickup — the guitar itself, your amp, etc. — I recommend going to www.dimarzio.com and using the Pickup Picker.
I'm currently designing a new vintage line that will replicate the pickups in my vintage collection.  It will be available in 2008.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on October 20, 2007, 02:29:11 pm
Thanks for the replies Larry! Do the newer Fender and Gibson reissues come close to the originals?? A lot of people keep saying that the reissue models are no where near as good as the originals but I'm thinking that Fender and Gibson would have the capability to recreate it fully if they wanted to.

Hey a_s,
They come closer than regular production guitars, but I've never played a reissue that I liked better than a vintage guitar.
That's a tricky question because not all vintage guitars are created equal. As I mentioned in the 59 Les Paul video, I compared my LP to several others from the same period. It was hands-down the best out of about 9 other Les Pauls.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on October 20, 2007, 02:31:21 pm
Hi Mr. DImarzio,

Welcome to the forum. I'm wondering which modern equivalents do the original PAF's in your 59 Les Paul sound like? Any info would be great as I plan on buying a Les Paul but really would like to get it as vintage sounding as possible.

Hey shredmonkey,
Thanks for your support. Please see my reply to krak_down69.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: custom24 on October 20, 2007, 07:44:14 pm
I'm currently designing a new vintage line that will replicate the pickups in my vintage collection.  It will be available in 2008.

Oooooohh.. Thanks for giving us that 'subtle' hint ;) I look forward to buying a set. Heck, I can't wait 'till it's out!! Just one question though, will it be hum cancelling or true to the originals and complete with the 60hz hum?
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on October 20, 2007, 11:59:46 pm
I'm currently designing a new vintage line that will replicate the pickups in my vintage collection.  It will be available in 2008.

Oooooohh.. Thanks for giving us that 'subtle' hint ;) I look forward to buying a set. Heck, I can't wait 'till it's out!! Just one question though, will it be hum cancelling or true to the originals and complete with the 60hz hum?

The answer is both ... he said cryptically.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: tomago on October 21, 2007, 10:36:50 am
The answer is both ... he said cryptically.

 :-\ Hmm... do I sense maybe two versions??
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: custom24 on October 31, 2007, 08:40:18 pm
Would those be the Dimarzio Collection pickups that I see advertised in Japan?
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: larryd on December 09, 2007, 09:30:02 pm
Musician’s Friend has posted 3 new videos of the photo shoot I did with Steve Vai for the cover of their December catalog. The Intro features about 20 minutes of the two of us chatting together after the photo session. The other videos give you shorter, behind the scenes looks at the making of the cover.
Use this link to check it out: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/vai" (You can also use this link to subscribe to the Musician’s Friend catalog if you’re so inclined.)
Thanks again to Steve, my crew, and the folks at MF — Ken Sager, Erik Beyer and Bill Newman — for making this so much fun.
All the best,
Larry DiMarzio

Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: ou812 on December 09, 2007, 11:14:58 pm
Sweet!! Thanks for the info mr. D!!
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: tomago on December 09, 2007, 11:24:04 pm
Great video!! Thannk you Mr. DiMarzio!!
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: mr_bluedream on December 09, 2007, 11:32:12 pm
Wow.. I didn't realize Larry Dimarzio did a lot of the guitar world and musiciansfriend photo shoots!! May I ask what kind of camera are you using??
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: purple_voodoo on December 13, 2007, 05:00:03 pm
Wow.. I didn't realize Larry Dimarzio did a lot of the guitar world and musiciansfriend photo shoots!! May I ask what kind of camera are you using??

What ever he's using, it's probably really expensive.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: LHC on December 16, 2007, 09:00:11 pm
Wow.. I didn't realize Larry Dimarzio did a lot of the guitar world and musiciansfriend photo shoots!! May I ask what kind of camera are you using??

Laryd has already been asked this, http://www.dimarzioforum.com/forum/index.php?topic=133.0.
Title: Re: Larry Dimarzio's 59 Les Paul!!
Post by: howard on January 24, 2008, 08:42:22 am

At this point, restoring the tuners would do more harm than good. The Grovers necessitated making the holes larger. Additionally, they keep the guitar in tune better than the original Klusons. There's a slight change in sound because of the Grovers' extra mass that I feel is an improvement. (This would not be the case with Fender guitars where I find that the lighter original pegs sound better.)

As for the vintage value, that was never a consideration for me. I've tried to collect the best sounding & playing guitars over the most original condition.

Agree. I have a Les Paul-SG 1961, which I bought in the mid-70s. It already had Grovers so the holes had been slightly drilled. The original magnets also had been changed to Alembic ceramics, which was offered by that company in the early 70s to put on some more bite for vintage pickups. After market pickups was not invented back then. ;) A while ago I decided to put back everything to orginal, and since I had  the original magnets I put them back in. I also wanted the guitar to have a original look, and thought about buying some old Klusons, before I checked the holes and realized they had been drilled. A set of vintage Klusons would most likely be un-stable there. So I found some Grovers 135N; the same size and construction as Grover Rotomatics but looking like Klusons. I aged them slightly with some white wine vinegar from the kitchen, it worked quite OK with nickel. Great look, perfect stability and function. And that guitar sounds great with the original magnets!