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Everything you wanted to know about .... / PAF Pro (in the NECK position)
« Last post by 123RnR on Today at 10:01:52 am »
Something like Dimarzio's take on the Seymour Duncan 59'.
Very balanced, even, with power, can take pedals with ease, and can play a lot of things.
It can be jazzy at times, nice for blues a la Gary Moore, etc. This ain't only for virtuosos!
Believe me, it's good! Even my tech will buy one now (after installing it on my guitar).

If anyone has questions about it (in the neck position), please write!
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The Pickup Place / Re: Talk me out of the PAF Master neck
« Last post by 123RnR on Today at 12:49:13 am »
Something about this thread tells me you should have gone with a PAF Pro.
I installed it, played it, and even my guitar tech will buy one.
It's THAT GOOD!  With your Fred in the bridge, a PAF Pro in the neck will provide you with Satriani's past pickups combination. It will work!
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The Pickup Place / Re: Talk me out of the PAF Master neck
« Last post by corypheus on February 16, 2019, 04:18:09 pm »
Okay, got the DP103F  36th and it's in the neck. 
Ibanez RG550 24 fret maple neck/basswood body/ original edge locking trem/ Fred in bridge- no middle PU/ 9-46  Dunlop strings re-used

This replaced an Air Norton that I liked by and large but felt was a bit dark for what I wanted from this guitar.
The 36th is a warm pickup, but more open sounding and a little less powerful than the AN. Notes on the wound strings are warm and a little more of a clear, cutting sounding than the AN. Unwound and higher notes are defined but not thin. Note separation under a good amount of gain is good.   I would say overall not as dark as the AN, but not even close to as bright as I "understand " the HFH to be.  Pick attack is good and while not overly so, the pickup does react to varying degrees of pick attack. Hit the string hard and it does give a little more attitude. Relative to the neck position pick harmonics are there but not quite to the level of the AN. ( I can get them easy on even an unplugged electric, guitar willing)   Volume wise,  I have the 36th somewhere between 1/16th to 1/8th inch higher than I had the AN to balance with the Fred as it is set.   As for the line between  smooth and fluid  vs more aggressive  my ear says this pickup in my guitar is about 60% aggressive and 40% smooth/fluid.  I'd say this is a good neck pickup that can do a number of things well without going overboard in one direction or another. I haven't had too much time with it yet and thus didn't play a lot of clean with it, but I will. This is a rock guitar but I do play clean so I'll get some solid time with it this weekend and post an updated report in the "Everything you wanted to know about"  section that will include some clean opinions.  From what I did play clean,  the "does everything well" likely applies.

So am I happy with the swap?  For those of us who  don't swap pickups for the purpose of doing reviews ( and thank you to those that do that for us!) I think we hope to be blown away with our new pickup.  I am not blown away.  I can't say this one is staying.  I can say this pickup moved me more in the direction I wanted to go - overall- than the AN did and that I do like it. I will give it a hearty chance.  There are more height and pole piece adjustments to try.  I do baseline "testing" with my DSL40CR and no outboard effects, but I play with a pedal board  and always have at least my Big Sky reverb  on, and various combinations of delay, chorus  ( hey its an '80s rock guitar!) flanger . etc for some bits. I'll give it the whole 9 yards.  Also, in order to be accurate I kept the same strings on. The strings are not dead by any means but are in the " these can be changed "  window.  I had 10's on this guitar and a while back wanted to try 9-46's and the only set I had were the Dunlops in that gauge.  I have no complaints but I usually stick with tried and true D'addario XL's and sometimes DR tite-fit sets.  I certainly won't make any final decisions without a fresh set on the guitar.
If someone brought a similar RG550 to my house that had the 36th in the neck and I played it thru my rig I am not 100% sure I'd have bought it. ( assuming similar wear on the strings).  I was hoping for a little more " bell like" tone on the wound strings and maybe more harmonics. At the same time I went for this because I was concerned the HFH might be too far in the other direction.  I'm gonna keep it for now and see what I can get out of it.  There are screws to be turned, knobs to be turned, maybe a new string gauge, and for sure it's almost due for new  strings of the same gauge  anyway.
Thanks for all the help you all  have provided on this thread.  Totally fine with buying the pup because ultimately ya never know until it's in the cavity and plugged in, and it's by no means a hard no even early on!

Hello,

Happy you've got closer to what you want. 36th anny is very versatile, sensitive to picking dynamics, and to it's height. You can definitely get closer to what you want by tweaking. In terms of everything else - I'm ultimately sad it isn't what you wanted it completely to be. I seem to get bell-like clean tones, by setting it up brighter on the amp, and having it a bit away from the strings, and then playing a bit with volume pot to get it where I want it to.

In terms of your description of it's sound, I agree with it. I started using the flatter part of the my pick (I use 1.5mm Jazz Dunlop picks), specially nearer the neck, and it transforms it's agressiveness into more fluid like tones. In fact, it's how readily it reacts to all the different things is what I like about it. It kinda works with me not against me. It definitely is a pickup that does everything well.

HFH compared is very bright and stiff, I personally don't think you'd dig it if you're not completely satisfied with 36th anny.


Thanks for the review! Hopefully in time it will start working out for your. If you, down the line, swap it for something else, let us know how it's different and what changes.

Kind regards,
Cory
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The Pickup Place / Re: Duncan Parallel Axis Distortion Fast Track 1
« Last post by nizz on February 15, 2019, 07:03:22 pm »
how do i do the magnet test on the rail pickup like that?  its a fast track 1 which has the two blades very close to each other.

curiously... if i wanted to completely reverse everything about how that middle pickup is wired, using the attached diagram from first post, how do I need to wire it?  If i wanted the entire everything to be BACKWARDS from what it is currently?

the darn thing is not noise cancelling in #4 or in #2.  And to make stuff funkier, i put in an air norton bridge last night, wired exactly as diagram says, and #4 is not noise cancelling.... wondering if the fast track 1 was somehow reversed by factory and i just never knew it?
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The Pickup Place / Re: Talk me out of the PAF Master neck
« Last post by Dave J on February 15, 2019, 01:08:35 pm »
Okay, got the DP103F  36th and it's in the neck. 
Ibanez RG550 24 fret maple neck/basswood body/ original edge locking trem/ Fred in bridge- no middle PU/ 9-46  Dunlop strings re-used

This replaced an Air Norton that I liked by and large but felt was a bit dark for what I wanted from this guitar.
The 36th is a warm pickup, but more open sounding and a little less powerful than the AN. Notes on the wound strings are warm and a little more of a clear, cutting sounding than the AN. Unwound and higher notes are defined but not thin. Note separation under a good amount of gain is good.   I would say overall not as dark as the AN, but not even close to as bright as I "understand " the HFH to be.  Pick attack is good and while not overly so, the pickup does react to varying degrees of pick attack. Hit the string hard and it does give a little more attitude. Relative to the neck position pick harmonics are there but not quite to the level of the AN. ( I can get them easy on even an unplugged electric, guitar willing)   Volume wise,  I have the 36th somewhere between 1/16th to 1/8th inch higher than I had the AN to balance with the Fred as it is set.   As for the line between  smooth and fluid  vs more aggressive  my ear says this pickup in my guitar is about 60% aggressive and 40% smooth/fluid.  I'd say this is a good neck pickup that can do a number of things well without going overboard in one direction or another. I haven't had too much time with it yet and thus didn't play a lot of clean with it, but I will. This is a rock guitar but I do play clean so I'll get some solid time with it this weekend and post an updated report in the "Everything you wanted to know about"  section that will include some clean opinions.  From what I did play clean,  the "does everything well" likely applies.

So am I happy with the swap?  For those of us who  don't swap pickups for the purpose of doing reviews ( and thank you to those that do that for us!) I think we hope to be blown away with our new pickup.  I am not blown away.  I can't say this one is staying.  I can say this pickup moved me more in the direction I wanted to go - overall- than the AN did and that I do like it. I will give it a hearty chance.  There are more height and pole piece adjustments to try.  I do baseline "testing" with my DSL40CR and no outboard effects, but I play with a pedal board  and always have at least my Big Sky reverb  on, and various combinations of delay, chorus  ( hey its an '80s rock guitar!) flanger . etc for some bits. I'll give it the whole 9 yards.  Also, in order to be accurate I kept the same strings on. The strings are not dead by any means but are in the " these can be changed "  window.  I had 10's on this guitar and a while back wanted to try 9-46's and the only set I had were the Dunlops in that gauge.  I have no complaints but I usually stick with tried and true D'addario XL's and sometimes DR tite-fit sets.  I certainly won't make any final decisions without a fresh set on the guitar.
If someone brought a similar RG550 to my house that had the 36th in the neck and I played it thru my rig I am not 100% sure I'd have bought it. ( assuming similar wear on the strings).  I was hoping for a little more " bell like" tone on the wound strings and maybe more harmonics. At the same time I went for this because I was concerned the HFH might be too far in the other direction.  I'm gonna keep it for now and see what I can get out of it.  There are screws to be turned, knobs to be turned, maybe a new string gauge, and for sure it's almost due for new  strings of the same gauge  anyway.
Thanks for all the help you all  have provided on this thread.  Totally fine with buying the pup because ultimately ya never know until it's in the cavity and plugged in, and it's by no means a hard no even early on!
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The Pickup Place / Re: PAF Pro/Air Zone not quite doing it for me
« Last post by buddroyce on February 15, 2019, 06:05:50 am »
I'm going to go out on a limb and say Norton... just cause you all know I love the pickup.
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The Pickup Place / Re: Duncan Parallel Axis Distortion Fast Track 1
« Last post by darkbluemurder on February 15, 2019, 04:01:48 am »
That is a strange phenomenon you are experiencing. Never had a PATB-2 but it cannot be much louder than a Super Distortion or a Lawrence L-500XL.

Have you done the magnet/polarity check, and what were the results? I am asking because at the moment I am not sure which coils need to be active to get the hum cancelled.

Cheers Stephan
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The Pickup Place / Re: Duncan Parallel Axis Distortion Fast Track 1
« Last post by nizz on February 14, 2019, 08:18:37 pm »
Tried it both ways, the noise is still there in #4.  Is it possible that the split duncan is just so loud it overpowers the ability to hum cancel when split with another pup?  my ibanez 550 with megadrive/evo single/paf pro is dead quiet in positions 2 and 4 and sounds killer.
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Everything you wanted to know about .... / Re: DLX Plus
« Last post by darkbluemurder on February 14, 2019, 09:32:53 am »
I should have noted that I described the bridge version (DP-154) in the first two posts. Meanwhile I also scored one for the neck (DP-162) and wired it in parallel. It replaced a DLX-90 which was also wired in parallel and was good but I hoped to get a tone that was more full. I achieved that with the DLX Plus neck in parallel (load to the pickup was about 250k) but still too scooped in the midrange. I then added a 0.001uf cap from hot to ground. Yes - that's more like a P90 now. Great tone and matches well with the DLX Plus in the bridge (which is wired in standard series mode). Still not quite there - I may have to do a slight tweak to tune the low response - more on that when I get to it.

Cheers Stephan
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The Pickup Place / Re: Duncan Parallel Axis Distortion Fast Track 1
« Last post by darkbluemurder on February 14, 2019, 04:17:28 am »
The meter readings would be the same in all cases so that does not get us anywhere. I still say try swapping white and red.

Good luck
Stephan
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