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Are these switching options possible ?
Virtuoso:
Hello :D
I was wondering if these switching options are possible ? I will be using a super switch and DPDT miniswitch.
Pickups I plan on using are a Titan Neck, Fast Track 1 Middle and D Sonic Bridge.
I know that the coil tap off swithing is possible, but not quite shure about the coil tap on switching. So before I go out and buy the stuff and hand it over to a luthier I want to make shure if this switching option I made are even possible :o
I'd appreciate your thoughts :)
HarlowTheFish:
I dunno about the splits on the bottom, but at least the top configuration seems like it could work with a super switch. You might need a 4pdt or something more involved to handle the splits and the neck + middle position though.
BluesJam:
Your switching system is overly complicated with several tones that would be similar anyways. In a live situation, it won’t work. Just too much fiddling around. Maybe you’re better off with a traditional 5 way switch, push/pull for series wiring/parallel wiring. This will keep everything humbucking/noise free. Parallel wiring simulates single coils, so you don’t lose anything. You can do a push/pull for a blow switch mod that send the bridge humbucker directly to the jack. That would give you instant lead tones, from any rhythm setting. Personally, I prefer push/ push pots and find them more user friendly. The mini switches just create more clutter and the break easily. They are not as durable as the oak grisby/ crl types IMHO
marcwormjim:
--- Quote from: Virtuoso on June 18, 2019, 08:30:37 PM ---I want to make shure if this switching option I made are even possible
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Hopefully I’m mistaken when I say “no; I don’t believe it will work.” A single DPDT switch won’t give you the switching options of 1, 2, or 3 in the bottom row. The good news is that these can be achieved, but will require additional switches:
A super switch will give you four independent combinations of the six pickup coils, with five selections of the soldering points shared between the four switch poles (determined by soldering bridge-points between two or more of the four sets of five contacts your leads will be going to). Using a DPDT to divert some of those coils to ground removes them from play - They are no longer available to the super switch unless you’re using an additional switch to toggle between which pickup coils are sent to ground by the DPDT.
Let’s review the consequences of each signal path in the bottom switching diagram, and how they affect the others:
Position 1 has the inside neck coil sent to ground by the DPDT; which makes it unavailable in position 2.
And because positions 2 and 4 without the DPDT (top diagram row) engaged sends one middle pickup coil to ground, engaging a DPDT to reverse which middle coil is sent to ground in that position requires reversing the leads of the middle humbucker. To achieve this and the coil splitting for the neck pickup as a modifier to switch position 2 requires two DPDT switches (as one DPDT is required for middle humbucker lead/“phase” reversal, and another is required to split the bridge and neck humbuckers).
Position 3 requires yet another additional switch: A SPDT to switch between two leads jumpered off from the super switch: One carrying the inside neck and bridge humbucker coils in parallel, and one carrying the middle humbucker in series. Note that any superswitch position affecting these coils only functions based on which of these two signals the SPDT is feeding it. Each switch diverts signal either to or away from the next switch in the series; and parallel switching paths containing paths to ground are pitfalls, unless you’re aware of how each switch position affects the others.
In summary: Your combinations of 6 pickup coils for the sake of humcancelling can be achieved but, as BluesJam suggests, series/parallel switching is a simplified way of achieving singlecoil tones between three humbuckers. Your diagrams are the messy alternative: Having to keep track of which of six coils are available between 13 switching combinations, with each dependent upon a particular arrangement of binary coil states, and some only possible through three or more switches being engaged.
BluesJam:
1) traditional 5 way Switch
1) 500k push/push or push/push pot for blow switch mod (volume pot)
1) 500k push/push or push/pull pot for series/parallel wiring (tone pot)
This option would give you full output and single coil sounds. All positions him canceling. Blow switch mod for instant lead tones from ant rhythm setting. Everything is quick and easy in a live setting.
10 distinct tones plus blow switch mod (can be used as a passive boost for solos) Do you really need anything else?
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