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Angelectrico25:
I sended an email to Dimarzio asking for some advice, and they told me this about the hum cancelling single coils:

"Are you aware that positions 2 and 4 will not cancel hum with standard RG wiring unless the middle pickup is split along with the humbuckers, and that the standard Ibanez 5-way does not have the ability to do this?"
"If the middle pickup has to cancel hum, the 5-way wiring will need to be altered for all 5 positions to cancel hum, and the neck and bridge pickups will no longer split in positions 2 and 4"

So, Let me see if I get this right: if I put a hum cancelling middle pickup, only when that pickup is selected alone with the 5 way switch un the middle position (3 position) the sound will be noise free, but in 2 and 4 positions I will still have hum? Or in every position I will have hum? People from Dimarzio say I will be better with a True Velvet or Red Velvet. Anyone has some advice?

darkbluemurder:
There are two easy set ups, depending on the attributes you want most.

1. If you use the middle pickup a lot by itself, use a humcancelling unit such as the Area 61. Without any specific wiring, any combination with a split humbucker will hum. The solution to that is either to not split the humbuckers or to split both the humbuckers and the Area 61. This may require a different pickup selector switch, in which case the question arises will it fit into the guitar?

2. If you don't use the middle pickup by itself but only in combination with the split humbuckers, a True Velvet would make these combinations humcancelling, depending on which coil of the humbucker is active. This wiring should be doable with the existing switch.

To get all combinations humcancellng is possible but the wiring is more complex.

Cheers Stephan

Modis:

--- Quote from: Angelectrico25 on January 01, 2019, 01:46:46 AM ---Thanks for the answear, so the old classic JEM's had that problem of the PAF Pro neck overpowering the PAF Pro bridge? I've never noticed that. But still I'm open to try another bridge pickup, maybe a Satur8?

But just out of curiosity, does someone knows if the single coil in the middle position on JEM's was a specific DiMarzio model? Or it was made by Ibanez?

That's why I want to know what DiMarzio single coil would be the closest to the JEM's?

--- End quote ---

Depends on the JEM model, most common is the Ibanez made S1 which is in your 570 others had the ISCV2 Dimarzio. They are all around 160mv output and similar spec to the Dimarzio FS-1.
The Ibanez HSH middle pup's are wound South CCW the same as a fender neck so make sure you have the correct wind sorted before purchasing a replacement such as a True Velvet.

Angelectrico25:
Thanks to all for the help. At the end I went: Fred (Bridge), True Velvet (Middle), Paf Pro (Neck) and the result wasn't what I expected... Every pickup by itself has a sound that I love, but I feel they don't complement each other well, the Paf Pro sounds a lot louder than the Fred, I had to pull up the Fred too close to the strings, and lower the Paf Pro too low to try to get them at an even volume, but the sound is too different as well, the Paf Pro sounds really fat and bassy, but not a clear bass, the bass is too boomy and undefined, and the pickup sounds too loud, the Fred sounds weak, anemic, thin, skinny, without bass, no body, and less louder, with less gain, and the True Velvet sounds really nice on it's own, sounds beautiful, but maybe a little too bright. So I feel like any of the pickups complements each other in a good way, so now that I tried this set up I think I can make some changes to get a better balance. I was thinking: Paf Joe (Neck) a little less output, and a clearer more defined bass, Satchur8 (Bridge) more output, more bass and mids, more body, less highs, to see if they complement each other better, because now I have to much differences in tone and volume. And I don't know if it's a good idea to try another middle single coil with more output and less bright. I'm tired of thinking. Any suggestions?

greenlion:
If you want to keep the Fred and have better balance, you could use a brighter, lower output pickup like the Humbucker from Hell. If you want to keep the Paf Pro, you could use a more powerful bridge pickup like the Air Zone or Tone Zone. I already posted my opinions of the single coils.

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