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Re: The Norton
« Reply #60 on: January 10, 2013, 02:20:01 pm »
"tight low end, powerful upper mids, clear top end, awesome harmonics" is totally a description of the Evo2.

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Re: The Norton
« Reply #61 on: January 10, 2013, 02:49:12 pm »
"tight low end, powerful upper mids, clear top end, awesome harmonics" is totally a description of the Evo2.

I am very keen on the Evo 2, but I was concerned that even the Norton would be too hot for what I'm after. Is there any of the organic, dynamic quality of the Norton in the Evo 2? After reading a few more reviews, I think the Norton could be a little too dark.

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Re: The Norton
« Reply #62 on: January 11, 2013, 03:34:31 am »
From your description the evo2 fits but its definitely a hot pickup this evo2. Dynamic the evo is but if you're looking for those vintage organic then look elsewhere for this evo2 is definitely a modern tight sounding pickup.

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Re: The Norton
« Reply #63 on: January 12, 2013, 10:25:00 am »
It seems this is a much loved pickup on here - I'm looking to get one for the bridge of a mahogany HH Telecaster to replace an old Dual Sound - just too much output and warmth for what I need - I'm completely in love with the sound of PAF Pros in mahogany but have been keen to try this one out for some time now, for something a little more punchy and powerful, yet still dynamic, responsive and articulate. So far, I've read all the stuff about it I wanted to read; tight low end, powerful upper mids, clear top end, awesome harmonics, etc. How do you think it compares to a PAF Pro, for reference, in the bridge in mahogany, for just that little bit 'more'? The guitar has a single 500k volume pot, no tone.

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It will do just what you asked.
I had a PAF Pro in a mahogany/maple top'd Ibanez bridge a long time ago and I remember it being a bit wimpy and too neutral for my taste. The Norton definitely has more power and oomph going on, but not as much as the Super D/Dual Sound. Also, to me the Norton seems to have more character to its tone than a PAF Pro.
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Re: The Norton
« Reply #64 on: January 22, 2013, 07:36:29 am »
I wanted to give my opinion of the Norton.  My Norton isn't store-bought.  It's an Un-aired Air Norton; which makes it a Norton.  I can see why folks who like the Duncan JB, love the Norton.  Where the JB has a harsher upper-mid tone, the Norton's is smoother.  It really has that cool 80's tone but is still relevant.  Under gain, notes are still articulate and clear.  The tone is warmer and beefy; but not a huge wall of sound like my Air Zone was.  Clean, it's got a cool sharpness to the tone, but it's still got a sweetness that sustains very nicely.  Now, I use my Norton in my Strat.  So, we have an alder body and maple neck/fretboard.  I use the stock 250k pots with the Norton only connected to the volume pot.
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Re: The Norton
« Reply #65 on: October 28, 2013, 12:37:47 pm »
Does the Norton sound different (in the bridge position) when you flip it, so that the screw-pole pieces face the neck?
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Re: The Norton
« Reply #66 on: May 12, 2014, 12:28:33 pm »
I just dropped a Norton into my Jackson Adrian Smith SDX and all I can say is WOW!  Such a great sounding pickup. I wish I'd tried it way sooner.


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Re: The Norton
« Reply #67 on: July 05, 2014, 04:33:55 am »
My take on it: 

It is really, really bright.  It has absolutely nothing to do with a JB, Custom 5, or other things I've seen it compared to.  I've had a lot of those over the years and still do, the Norton is a humbucker, so are those, that's about the only comparison I'd make.  Norton is a very bright pickup with more upper mids than most PAFs.  In stock form with 500k volume, I find it unbearably bright.  A3 and/or 250k can tame it enough to not make me squint when hitting a high string, and then it becomes a tolerably bright PAF with more upper mids and output. 

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Re: The Norton
« Reply #68 on: September 15, 2014, 06:20:33 am »
hello
what do you think of this video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkQrhhcl6Ac

i think it's a volume problem

i am disappointed that the norton has not a big sound like an evh or sh4
but i bought it to be close to the fred

if you want a fatter sound, you will need an eq or change the pickup

for the harmonics, i really don't know if the fred was the best over the norton
someone said that here
maybe

An evo must be tried too

paf joe
fred
and now, norton

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Re: The Norton
« Reply #69 on: January 23, 2018, 05:28:23 am »
Last night I also converted an air-norton to a norton to test it in the neck position.

The basic eq is like placing the air-norton extremely close to the strings without dynamics poping. Tighter on the high strings but loser on the low, some change with the screw-pole hights do help. Also, its extremely sensitive to positioning. The pickup must slant to the body a bit to get a reasonable neck character, height adjustment isn't enough.

The tonezone didn't keep up with it. Its not the output but the mid.s, it can be solved by flipping the magnets non-cast side on the tonezone to match the tightness and mids. I still have to experiment with height a bit more but I'm positive then it will work.

This mod. is only for those who play with a lot of gain (shred), don't expect it to sound (actually, react to dynamics) as nice with bluesy overdrive. Looking at the dimarzio site, after this mod. the Breed set got more of my attention before to get a middle-ground between this mod. and standard (alnico with high-out without over the top...).

Update; yeah it worked, I also decreased the norton a bit more than I'd normally do with lower-output pickups and got it to a territory where it can be named "versatile" on the neck position. As dimarzio site says its usable on the neck, but consider something higher-output than the tonezone if you don't want to deal with modifying.
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